2016 Sepang MotoGP Test Times Monday: Lorenzo Leads, Rossi, Pedrosa and Ducatis Follow

Final times at the end of testing on Monday:

Pos No Rider Bike Time Diff Prev
1 99 Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha M1 2:00.684    
2 46 Valentino Rossi Yamaha M1 2:01.717 1.033 1.033
3 26 Dani Pedrosa Honda RC213V 2:01.780 1.096 0.063
4 9 Danilo Petrucci Ducati GP15 2:01.811 1.127 0.031
5 29 Andrea Iannone Ducati GP16 2:01.912 1.228 0.101
6 8 Hector Barbera Ducati GP14.2 2:02.002 1.318 0.090
7 93 Marc Márquez Honda RC213V 2:02.278 1.594 0.276
8 45 Scott Redding Ducati GP15 2:02.338 1.654 0.060
9 41 Aleix Espargaro Suzuki GSX-RR 2:02.539 1.855 0.201
10 35 Cal Crutchlow Honda RC213V 2:02.586 1.902 0.047
11 25 Maverick Viñales Suzuki GSX-RR 2:02.645 1.961 0.059
12 44 Pol Espargaro Yamaha M1 2:02.646 1.962 0.001
13 4 Andrea Dovizioso Ducati GP16 2:02.650 1.966 0.004
14 68 Yonny Hernandez Ducati GP14.2 2:02.916 2.232 0.266
15 38 Bradley Smith Yamaha M1 2:03.026 2.342 0.110
16 51 Michele Pirro Ducati GP16 Test 2:03.203 2.519 0.177
17 76 Loris Baz Ducati GP14.2 2:03.204 2.520 0.001
18 53 Tito Rabat Honda RC213V 2:03.463 2.779 0.259
19 50 Eugene Laverty Ducati GP14.2 2:03.565 2.881 0.102
20 6 Stefan Bradl Aprilia RS-GP 2:03.978 3.294 0.413
21 19 Alvaro Bautista Aprilia RS-GP 2:04.075 3.391 0.097

 

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Any information on the tyre compounds used by the riders?

Total votes: 48

Even though this is just the start of the 2016 testing, it is interesting to see that Casey Stoner after one day on the Desmosedici GP15 is faster than Marquez after his first day of 2016. And Stoner would have been only four tenths off second place. Are conditions worse now than last Saturday? Or is Stoner indeed already/still really fast? Will be very interesting to see what happens when he joins in this week.
And I wonder why Lorenzo is so much faster than everybody else. Is that a sign of his possible supremacy or is he just following a different strategy in this test? After all, right now it's all about dialing in the new bikes, tyres and electronics, and trying different set-ups. Chasing a fast lap is probably easier if you stick with the same kind of set-up all day, even if that would not be the ideal one.
Let's see how things develop the coming days (and months...).

Total votes: 75

Some very good points made there. I suspect that the Michelin front has seem some improvement. Maybe they really do suit Lorenzo? Nice to see ducats's strong and I hope it points to a win for them this season.

Total votes: 50

But I highly doubt its because JL is sticking to one setup. Judging from the sheer amount of material Yamaha brought to test; 2015 bike, hybrid bike, 2016 bike and misc items. JL would be hard pressed to provide feedback on all materials and for him to leave all that testing to VR would leave himself open to having a bike developed without significant input from him.

Its only testing though so all times should be taken with a pinch of salt (Pirro is a good rider but he is second on the time sheets!)

Total votes: 52

Both the riders provide feedback. but i feel VR's input is considered the most, as for his depth analysis is beyond of JL.

VR gets the bike technically up to date and JL rides utilises/rides to the fullest.
This is one thing which VR is lacking.

But it's only first day. might turn around.

Total votes: 80

I guess Rossi's feedback was out of his depth those years in Ducati. And VR must have been moonlighting doing some development at Yamaha for them to have a bike good enough for Lorenzo to win a title on.

>>as for his depth analysis is beyond of JL.

What does this even mean?

Chris

Total votes: 92

After Vale does all of Yamaha's engineering and development, that sneaky Marc Marquez comes in late at night, transfers all of Vale's hard work to Jorge's bike, and scrambles the settings on Rossi's bike.

It's a tribute to Vale's awesomeness that he can still get almost within a second of Jorge's times.

Total votes: 53

Wilco zeelenberg on JL:
Sometimes he doesnt really feel the difference between setup changes, we might setup the suspension differently and dont tell jorge and he will go out and do the same laptime straight away. Even with two different bikes with different setups, its amazing, he just rides it.

Burgess on VR:
I never worked with or known a rider with this abbility to go out with a bike where we changed six different things to the setup and he comes back in and he can give us feedback on every single change. Not even mick doohan, he could handle only three changes at once. Vale comes back in and its like a datareport printing out.

So the comment made above indeed makes perfect sense. Dont forget that all the input from vale (and stoner) at the time was ingnored by the previous Ducati race departement. Only after vale left a new approach was made and lots of vale s input was used to create a new Ducati that would handle better.

You can think It might be a coincidence but the Yamaha didnt improve a lot while vale was at Ducati. Yamaha also stated that in the first half of 2013 vales input for development wasnt really talking into serious account. Two years later the Yamaha beats the Honda...

Total votes: 64

Wilco zeelenberg on
Submitted by kvdw on Mon, 2016-02-01 21:26.
Wilco zeelenberg on JL:
Sometimes he doesnt really feel the difference between setup changes, we might setup the suspension differently and dont tell jorge and he will go out and do the same laptime straight away. Even with two different bikes with different setups, its amazing, he just rides it.

Burgess on VR:
I never worked with or known a rider with this abbility to go out with a bike where we changed six different things to the setup and he comes back in and he can give us feedback on every single change. Not even mick doohan, he could handle only three changes at once. Vale comes back in and its like a datareport printing out.

So the comment made above indeed makes perfect sense. Dont forget that all the input from vale (and stoner) at the time was ingnored by the previous Ducati race departement. Only after vale left a new approach was made and lots of vale s input was used to create a new Ducati that would handle better.

You can think It might be a coincidence but the Yamaha didnt improve a lot while vale was at Ducati. Yamaha also stated that in the first half of 2013 vales input for development wasnt really talking into serious account. Two years later the Yamaha beats the Honda...

To make a comparison. In the seventies emmerson fitipaldi and ronny peterson were teammates at Lotus. Emmerson did all the setup work, Peterson never had any feeling for it. They joked that he wouldnt even notice having a flat tire. At the end of the session Ronny asked emmerson which set up he liked best, copied it and went faster with it in his famous brutal style.
Some riders are developmentriders, some just drive there guts out whatever there on/in.

Total votes: 60

The bike is just that, a myth. Yes, Vale gives good feedback, and as we read most times like at Ducati and his first year at Yamaha, it is usually the same as other top riders. And without a proper race and engineering department it is all only so many wasted words.

Now are those actual quotes that you can link to the interviews of or are they your interpretation of something? I suspect the latter as JB is good enough to know not to change 6 things at once. Also, because JL can do the same lap times with different setups does not mean he does not know the setups are different. Which is also a suspect quote since one of JL's weaknesses is not being able to quickly adapt if the setup is not as he likes, eg. the non-edge treated tire.

>>Only after vale left a new approach was made and lots of vale s input was used to create a new Ducati that would handle better

Even though Rossi left a year previous to his hiring? I'm sure Gigi knew perfectly well from his time at Aprilia how to design a bike an didn't look much at year+ old data on a year+ old tire design to move Ducati forward.

>>You can think It might be a coincidence but the Yamaha didnt improve a lot while vale was at Ducati.

Good enough to win a title the second year he was gone when JL's influence on bike design (high corner speed, low and long setup) would be greatest.

>>Two years later the Yamaha beats the Honda...

VR must have significant mental powers to mess up HRC and convince them to (yet again) chase Hp ahead of driveabaility. And it was JL and his team that seemed to be able to set the M1 up best most weekends.

Is is ironic that the year that should have been Marquez dominance with him being chased by the up and comers with the new elbow down, foot-wagging style ends up with JL and his classic 250 style taking the day. Apart from the end of season drama JL was the fastest guy most of the time riding the way he's always done. You can be sure his employer values his input. They refused Rossi's ultimatum regarding JL, they must have seen something. Yet because he's a surly perfectionist that looks in supreme control he gets no respect from fans. Go figure.

Chris

Total votes: 49

Obviously Vale is not doing the R&D and design of the motorcycle, but without detailed, accurate feedback the engineers have nothing to work with.

A rider who just rides around problems is not really helpful for the development of the motorcycle.

Even since the 500 days Rossi has been renowned as having some of the best feedback in the paddock, and I believe that is the point people are making when talking about the bike being "Developed by" Vale. He is the source of detailed data for fixing problems.

You can see it in the box as well. When things don't go well, Jorge will often throw a tantrum, Vale never does, he sits down, goes through the data methodically with his engineer and fixes it. He's almost always much faster (relative to the others) on Sunday than he is on Friday or Saturday.

Total votes: 50

Submitted by jethrorose on Tue, 2016-02-02 12:51.
"A rider who just rides around problems is not really helpful for the development of the motorcycle."

We know happens when the rider's feedback gets ignored, but he rides around the problems anyway? (ie. Stoner & Ducati)

Total votes: 53

What it really is an example of is how some Rossi fans swallow anything he says as absolute truth.

Lorenzo had a faster fast lap, faster clusters of fast laps and a faster overall pace than Rossi but somehow Rossi's testing was more useful to Yamaha because he did more, slower laps. As if Lorenzo made his own schedule for his 3 days of testing and did not follow Yamaha's direction while Rossi sacrificed his testing time for the betterment of the other Yamaha riders. Rossi for the Nobel peace prize!

Chris

Total votes: 56

I reckon Jorge simply did a hot lap.
David will probably have the inside scoop on that one.

Seeing how everyone is far off the pace, and substantially lower times seem possible, I'd say the current field shuffling is down to everyone testing hard.

I'd say the situation will become clearer by Wednesday.

Total votes: 58

Was Pirro the only test rider out on circuit? No Hiroshi Aoyama or Katsuyuki Nakasuga?

Total votes: 63

VR did almost double the number of laps that JL did. David can you tell us more about it? What type of strategy/plan are they following? Considering the effort riders must make in those very hot conditions I'm amazed at what VR did.... very few did over 50 laps. Any thoughts on this?

Total votes: 59

Are Redding and Petrucci confirmed on GP16's? I thought they were on last years factory bikes.

Total votes: 60

Both are on GP15's according to CrashNet and also from viewing live the test sessions on MOTOGP from about 8 Pm Central time to approx 4 AM central time USA.

PETRUCCI continues to impress, although it is just a test session with a lot of different configs being tested.

Total votes: 50

Apologies. Typo my part in the spreadsheet I do the times in.  Fixed now.

Total votes: 51

Any news on Dovizioso? I didn;t see him improving his lap time

Total votes: 50

I guess the grip gets better each day but it is different every time they go out. If that time of Stoner's is fair dinkum, it wasn't bad at all, given the time on the bike. Given his state in the the GP One interview, is probably was. God, he was relaxed, as you said, David and the Laguna joke said it all. On gut again, no disrespect to anyone, I think that if an alien was on a Ducati last year, it would have won at least one race. Iannone is still learning. Redding must be happy he changed over. Can't wait to see what happens with Stoner on track tomorrow. If he goes well, Ducati may want another day, if he is able to do so. Even though he can't be Dorna's favourite guy, there's no such thing as bad press, they say...

Total votes: 58

Traveling for work and so not able to watch... how is the rubber holding up and are as many riders hitting pavement due to new tires as they were late last year? Would hate to see anyone's season ended before it starts due to tires.

Total votes: 51