2015 Argentina MotoGP QP Result: New Kids On The Block

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Marc Marquez extended his advantage to half a second while securing pole position Saturday at the Termas de Rio Hondo circuit in Argentina. And for the first time in his career, Marquez had to beat a Suzuki to do it. 

Aleix Espargaro continued to give his Suzuki bosses reasons to be happy about the company's return to the paddock with a qualifying lap of 1'38.316, half a second from Marquez but good for the second position in the front row. It is Espargaro's first front-row start of 2015 and Suzuki's first since 2007. Also a newcomer to the neighborhood is Andrea Iannone who put in a fast lap near the session's end to grab the final front-row position.

Cal Crutchlow (4th) narrowly missed out the first group but leads the second team just a few hundredths of a second from Iannone. Jorge Lorenzo settled into fifth, just in front of Andrea Dovizioso (6th). 

Consistently quick in 2015, Danilo Petrucci (7th) put his satellite Ducati into the lead spot in the third row. And for the first time in his career, he qualified in front of fellow countryman Valentino Rossi (8th) who has not threatened a top spot on his factory Yamaha all weekend. Maverick Vinales brought the other factory Suzuki in at 9th followed by Bradley Smith (10th) who was one of the top-two finishers in Q1.

Scott Redding was pushed into 11th after making Q2 and Hector Barbara remained in 12th after joining Smith in advancing from Q1.

Result:

Pos. No. Name Bike Time Diff. / Prev.
1 93 Marc MARQUEZ Honda 1'37.802  
2 41 Aleix ESPARGARO Suzuki 1'38.316 0.514 / 0.514
3 29 Andrea IANNONE Ducati 1'38.467 0.665 / 0.151
4 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW Honda 1'38.485 0.683 / 0.018
5 99 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha 1'38.485 0.683
6 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Ducati 1'38.520 0.718 / 0.035
7 9 Danilo PETRUCCI Ducati 1'38.786 0.984 / 0.266
8 46 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha 1'38.890 1.088 / 0.104
9 25 Maverick VIÑALES Suzuki 1'39.187 1.385 / 0.297
10 38 Bradley SMITH Yamaha 1'39.197 1.395 / 0.010
11 45 Scott REDDING Honda 1'39.380 1.578 / 0.183
12 8 Hector BARBERA Ducati 1'40.526 2.724 / 1.146
13 68 Yonny HERNANDEZ Ducati 1'39.405 0.449 / 0.085
14 50 Eugene LAVERTY Honda 1'39.434 0.478 / 0.029
15 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA Honda 1'39.715 0.759 / 0.281
16 6 Stefan BRADL Yamaha Forward 1'39.734 0.778 / 0.019
17 17 Karel ABRAHAM Honda 1'39.758 0.802 / 0.024
18 44 Pol ESPARGARO Yamaha 1'39.808 0.852 / 0.050
19 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA Aprilia 1'39.828 0.872 / 0.020
20 69 Nicky HAYDEN Honda 1'39.876 0.920 / 0.048
21 43 Jack MILLER Honda 1'39.888 0.932 / 0.012
22 76 Loris BAZ Yamaha Forward 1'39.972 1.016 / 0.084
23 63 Mike DI MEGLIO Ducati 1'40.133 1.177 / 0.161
24 33 Marco MELANDRI Aprilia 1'40.403 1.447 / 0.270
25 15 Alex DE ANGELIS ART 1'40.485 1.529 / 0.082

 

Round Number: 
3
2015
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Total votes: 49

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As always ...isn't there anyone out there to challenge this ruthless killer on a single lap pace ? Any guesses but even in races its required 110% of effort to beat him. Even with the soft tires ducati cannot take pole...

Though the track favours yamaha but still they cannot challenge marc. The reason maybe is inspite of the layout yamaha requires grippy tyres and with only hard and extra hard options available they cannot do much more. Even shinji aoki said "The tyre allocation for this race uses harder rubber compounds than other circuits to ensure high levels of durability, stability and heat resistance". So maybe its another marquez show. (Hoping its not....whatsoever)

Total votes: 76

Did you watch Marc's pole lap? If anyone says the Honda is easy to ride....BS!!! That bike was bucking, rocking and shaking its head and the only thing keeping it near the line was stunning talent! The long right hander coming into the left just prior to the line, the bike was drifting sideways, at about a 45 degree lean angle and I thought his lap was shot...Nope! He was faster! The 'kid' is the only person who can beat...himself.

Total votes: 62

But can the ducati or yamaha be riden like that and not end up in the gravel? Marquez is talented, so are the nameless engineers who built the bike-each the best at what he/she does.

Total votes: 42

Anyone who says its boring didnt watch that crazy lap he did , sliding the bike sideways to the apex at 200 kmh+

best natural crazy talent since Gobert

Total votes: 65

I must admit that I haven't checked the long runs and I assume that David may be about to enlighten us on who appears to have the best race pace. But I thought it was funny that Marquez, in his post-QP interview, didn't even bother to mention the two competitors who were joining him in Parc Fermé. Instead, he said he expected Jorge and Valentino to challenge him tomorrow. Is there really that little to expect from Iannone and Aleix? Despite their grid positions?

Another thing I found quite amusing: The Bridgestone tire memory game was a particular mess this time around. The commentators in the german broadcast were constantly referring to "the softer" or "the harder" tire, yet adding that what they referred to as "the softer compound" when talking about Rossi was the same as what they called "the harder tire" when referring to Dovizioso. You could tell they were mildly confused.

Total votes: 68

I think that's why they officially named the two compounds in F1 primes (harder) and options (softer) regardless of the compounds they actually took to the track. All the commentators could of simplified it by sticking to a consistent description. Either Extra Hard and Hard or harder and softer tyre.

Total votes: 53

Andrea Iannone said as much in his post-race interview; The hardest option tire (that the only the full factory teams get) likely is the only tire that will do decent lap times on this surface at this temperature for a whole race. This is other side of the factory option coin. Ducati does get some advantages in its current chosen status re: engine and liters of fuel (although that recently changed), softer tires, etc.  But they don't get this extra hard tire. And yes, David will be getting into that in his wrap-up. Stay tuned.

Total votes: 56

I believe they need to add another 5 or 10 minutes to Q1 and Q2.

I think it particularly disadvantages some teams and riders at circuits where the rather poor tyre options just simply don't work.
Yes Marc was brilliant again, but Rossi and Jorge are certainly much quicker than their positions on the grid, makes for an interesting grid yes, however the spectacle of Qualifying like it use to be has been lost. Hopefully Michelin will spice things up a bit, but we need more time Dorna, even 5 minutes surely has to be better for TV, sponsors, teams etc....

Total votes: 52

This type of qualifying to me is (and has been) stupid. The time allowed is so short that it adds a randomization element that I think obscures the championship significantly. There should be sufficient qualifying time such that each rider has a chance for at least 2 uninterrupted laps, and the fact that a traffic management strategy has to be adopted to get a clean lap is nonsense. It's not as stupid as Formula 1's artificially bad tires, but it's close. And it's also dangerous.

Computing traffic management strategies for a flying lap is not racing. This is little different than randomly adding or subtracting some time to everyone's laps by drawing a number from a hat.

Also consider that a flying lap can be screwed up not just by misunderstanding the traffic, but even if the traffic is computed correctly, if there is an unpredictable traffic "problem" (a bike slows unexpectedly, runs off-line or interrupts the line) you can get hosed up.

It's dangerous because it puts slower riders upfront sometimes, and that creates significantly more risk both for them and the faster riders coming through.

Total votes: 64

MotoGP is more than just competing against the clock. Thats is called a time trial. MotoGP competition is trying to achieve the best result on the track when everyone else is also on the track, trying to do the same thing. Thats called racing.

As for the safety aspect. How many crashed occur in WSBK Superpole sessions compared to Q1-Q2 MotoGP format?

Total votes: 61

... make a thoughtful comment, but this site despises iPads so much that's been near impossible to type it all out without a pop-up or worse ruining it and deleting all of my text. Nice.

Total votes: 65

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Total votes: 59

It seems to like factory yamahas have been sandbagging it in most of the free practice this season. But I agree that the qualifying format creates unsafe situations, completely negating the point.

Total votes: 52

Due to the tyre rules, we now have a stituation where a potentially competitive team in Ducati could now find themselves out of contention because they can't select the same tyre the best teams will use, thereby artificially handicapping them and reducing how entertaining the race could be for fans.. That's stupid. The point of the 'open' class rules was to help the struggling teams, but in Argentina the exact opposite might happen. Time for Dorna and Bridgestone to step in and allow the teams who get concessions to have access to all the tyres. They can cite safety reasons if they need to, with the Ducati likely to tear the less-hard tyre to shreds by race end.

Total votes: 58

They are the rules Ducati chose to compete under, which gives them more engines and more fuel. They could have entered under the same rules as Honda and Yamaha.
Nobody forced them to make that decision.
The people at Ducati made their choice.
End of story.

Total votes: 64

the hardest tyres were ever excluded from open teams was because at the time there was a concern that they would struggle to get enough heat into them to use them properly and crash, as there was a spate of cold tyre crashes at the time. This eventuality at Argentina was never intended, the concessions were to boost the performance of struggling teams, not to boost them except for abrasive tracks where they instead get penalised. Its not a case of changing rules on the run to suit a certain team, it's refining the rule to ensure its still having its intended purpose. What we have now is just a silly situation that hurts the sport. I know Honda and Yamaha probably wouldn't be keen to see Ducati have access to the same tyre but if the alternative is to have them skating around on completely destroyed hoops by lap 10 then it's clear the so called tyre 'concessions' need looking at.

Total votes: 45

Just saw he was mad at slower traffic he encountered.

Total votes: 50

Casey Stoner is not racing. Any comments referencing him have a 95% chance of being deleted, unless he starts racing again or I believe the comment is relevant.

Total votes: 81

Thank you, David.

Total votes: 49

Can someone clarify please. Was the extra hard tyre even an option when Ducati chose to "defect" to the open class? I was under the assumption the extra hard tyre has only just recently become an option.

Total votes: 57

Ducati choosing the open class had nothing to do with tyres.

Ducati chose to try to defect to the open class because once Honda finally managed after decades of trying, in the last year of the 800cc era, to build a Championship winning bike with their corporate signature V4 four-stroke engine. Honda then used their dominant position in GP racing to push through regulations for the 1000cc bikes that had a factory prototype class with an development freeze, therefore no prototyping, during the racing season.

Ducati at the end of the 990 era & the start of the 800 era had developed several technical advantages, specifically Bridgestone tyres & valve springless valve train. With constant IN SEASON development firstly Honda then Yamaha introduced pneumatic valve trains, seamless gearboxes & electronics advances to march ahead of Ducati in development.

By their own hand Ducati found themselves off the pace in MotoGP, but unlike Honda in the 800cc era struggling to match Yamaha & Ducati, they were unable to develop their bike in the racing season & were limited by the winter test ban. Ducati chose the open class purely to circumvent those anticompetitive restrictions on development during the season. For a while it looked like Yamaha would follow suit, exchanging their electronics for the chance to develop their bike, leaving Honda exposed & DORNA with their desired control electronics but I suspect there was a bit of a firm chat in Japan than killed that rebellion off.

Total votes: 43