2014 Sepang Moto3 Race Result: Tempers Run High In Epic Encounter

Full Recap and Results Below.

Efren Vazquez has taken his second career victory following a bruising Moto3 race at Sepang, warm and sunny conditions greeted the riders with the ambient temperature sitting at 34 degrees Celsius. Vazquez eventually made a fine move on the final corner and won the run to the line to edge out Jack Miller and Alex Rins. Rins did fantastically to recover from starting 17th on the grid but the real story of the race revolved around Miller. Much like at Phillip Island last week Miller rode extremely aggressively throughout, taking the steps that he felt necessary and making several strong passing maneuvers on Alex Marquez. 

Miller shunted the Championship leader wide on a number of occasions and also had welcome assistance from his friend Danny Kent; Marquez was eventually passed and beaten by Kent on the final lap and had to settle for fifth place, his Championship lead to Miller cut to eleven points heading into the final race at Valencia. Alexis Masbou crossed the line in sixth place a couple of tenths behind Marquez and was followed a further second back by Niccolo Antonelli, Jakub Kornfeil, Karel Hanika and Enea Bastianini. The race was extremely high in incident, the hot slippery conditions resulted in no less than fourteen retirements.

Marquez was furious after the race and remonstrated petulantly with Danny Kent and then his team, he had little to complain about however as he gave as good as he got throughout. His team principal Emilio Alzamora was later seen complaining to IRTA in the pit lane, however once the dust settles and the tantrums abate all the ingredients are there for a mouth-watering showdown in two weeks time. 

Results:

Pos. Points Num. Rider Bike Time/Gap
1 25 7 Efren VAZQUEZ Honda 40'41.002
2 20 8 Jack MILLER KTM 0.213
3 16 42 Alex RINS Honda 0.385
4 13 52 Danny KENT Husqvarna 0.803
5 11 12 Alex MARQUEZ Honda 0.831
6 10 10 Alexis MASBOU Honda 1.073
7 9 23 Niccolò ANTONELLI KTM 1.916
8 8 84 Jakub KORNFEIL KTM 2.089
9 7 98 Karel HANIKA KTM 7.336
10 6 33 Enea BASTIANINI KTM 9.520
11 5 58 Juanfran GUEVARA Kalex KTM 17.407
12 4 99 Jorge NAVARRO Kalex KTM 17.610
13 3 38 Hafiq AZMI KTM 29.592
14 2 19 Alessandro TONUCCI Mahindra 29.745
15 1 2 Remy GARDNER KTM 37.467
16   43 Luca GRÜNWALD Kalex KTM 37.505
17   95 Jules DANILO Mahindra 37.792
18   65 Philipp OETTL Kalex KTM 38.773
19   4 Gabriel RAMOS Kalex KTM 55.583
20   88 Hafiza ROFA KTM +1'36.170
Not Classified
    17 John MCPHEE Honda 1 Lap
    21 Francesco BAGNAIA KTM 6 Laps
    32 Isaac VIÑALES KTM 7 Laps
    5 Romano FENATI KTM 7 Laps
    9 Scott DEROUE Kalex KTM 10 Laps
    3 Matteo FERRARI Mahindra 10 Laps
    55 Andrea LOCATELLI Mahindra 11 Laps
    41 Brad BINDER Mahindra 12 Laps
    31 Niklas AJO Husqvarna 14 Laps
    63 Zulfahmi KHAIRUDDIN Honda 17 Laps
    16 Andrea MIGNO Mahindra 17 Laps
    13 Jasper IWEMA Mahindra 17 Laps
    93 Ramdan ROSLI KTM 17 Laps
Not Finished 1st Lap
    44 Miguel OLIVEIRA Mahindra 0 Lap

 

Round Number: 
17
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We did not see what happened between Kent and Marques, but Marques's behaviour is "petulant".

Miller rode a brilliant on-the-limit-of-legality race: sensible given that he was probably hoping to knock Marques off. Marques rode a typical protect-the-championship-lead race. Most commentators (except you and Nick Harris?) saw Miller put 5 or 6 very hard moves on Marques. I saw perhaps one going the other way.

Disappointing. (Not the race)

when he pushed Miller wide.

Must admit that Jack stretched the radius of his corner when Marques was outside him. Pity Miller didn't win but he certainly showed his cards and played very very consistently.

Congratulations to Remy (sp?) Gardner who picked up his first WC point.

I thought it was a bit rich for Marquez to complain about a bit of hard passing. I pointed out that Miller rode extremely aggressively and also noted that he made several hard passes. Marquez did the same and has done in several races previous.

I am sorry if you identify that as bias. I think we can all agree that it was a fantastically entertaining race, at the very least.

I will also point out that between Miller and Marquez this season, only one of them has been 'knocked off' during a race by the other.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Race direction has made consistent calls re. this type of racing. You can't play by the rules set out and then complain when your the one on the outside copping the medicine.

was not to do with the season. I agree that Marques has been hard as well, and that over the season your comment would be completely justified.

My point was your comment about THIS race. Anybody reading your review will assume that it was balanced in this race.

Between this, and your immediate labelling of Marques's protestations being "petulant", my concern about bias remains.

BTW, I am not saying it was not petulant. Unlike you, I reserve judgement until presented with evidence.

I would class one-sided remonstrating and swearing audibly in front of the cameras as petulant behavior. Maybe that's just me.

Incase you were wondering, petulant by definition means: childish, sulky or bad-tempered. 

I think that's a fair assesment of Marquez' post-race conduct.

that he was angry.

Surely, the question is: was his anger justified or not.

If not, then your comment is fair enough.

Unless you classify anybody who has ever been angry, irrespective of cause, as bad-tempered and hence petulant?

I hold the opinion that it is a case of good for the goose, good for the gander. Or maybe pot, kettle, black. He dishes it out at will, so of course he's going to cop it back.

So to then have q bit of a whinge and cry and essentially 'it's not fair', yes that's petulant.

I won't discuss it any further, but I believe his anger could certainly be defined as petulant, given the circumstances and previous situations. 

When he knocked Miller out of the race at Aragon, Miller didn't carry on, complain or lodge protests, he simply put it down as a racing incident and carried on with things.

Marquez could have simply been the bigger man and done the same today, in my opinion.

Really? Miller didn't complain? Or his team? Come on, in interviews and twitter they did plenty of complaining

I'm with you on this one, Calvin.

I think "petulant" is a loaded word. The common context of the word is to imply childish behaviour and I think that's harsh on Marquez. His disappointment is totally understandable in this situation.

Hard moves, a championship on the line, 18 years old, and (let's not forget) scorching heat. Totally an understandable reaction.

I'm absolutely behind Jack Miller, but I think the use of the word "petulant" is unfair to Marquez and, more importantly to this site, inaccurate.

Marquez did not "knock off" Miller, Miller cut back into him, knocked his own foot off the peg and ran over it sending himself out of the race. Marquez never varied his line and held the inside of the dry line. Both Miller and Ajo accused him of pushing him wide. This is simply not the case as the overhead view CLEARLY demonstrates.

Today Jack CLEARLY ran wide into Marquez not once but several times. I'm disappointed that Alex didn't learn not to put himself in the same position each time but that does not excuse Jack's intentions.

As for "petulant", Miller has displayed that fault on many occasions this year himself.

However, I suppose a Melbourne based MCNews journalist might see it differently. Perhaps a bit tinted by the flag?

I have identified Miller's behaviour previously, especially some of the carry-on and arm waving in practice and qualifying sessions. It's cost him on more than one occasion this season.

I call it as I see it and I stand by my use of the word that has caused such an uproar today. My location has nothing to do with my writing, at Motegi Marquez handled the tough passing beautifully and because he achieved a good result, there was no issue.

You can never please everyone, it will be interesting to see how both riders handle themselves at Valencia.

Watch the replay keeping and eye on Marquez's left knee, once he realised Miller was staying there you can see him lift and drift wide ever so slightly.
Not saying Miller should have been there, it was a silly place to put himself. But Marquez knew what he was doing.

Thanks for linking that forum thread, its a nice read. and you're right I was referring to the front on shot
I looked at the pics and did a bit of unscientific Microsoft paint pixel counting
Measuring from Kent's back wheel to the kerb above he increases his distance to the kerb by 7% between the two pics
Marquez increases his distance by 10%
Miller increases his distance by 4%
So it would seem that Miller did indeed tighten his line and Marquez also drifted wide. The fact that both contributed would be why race direction deemed it a racing incident I assume.

Not an "anglophile bias", @calvin. It's there for all to see on the cool-down lap footage. Marquez with visor open verballing Kent and demonstrating very obvious hostile body language. Suggest you go and have another look at the video.
After Marquez took Miller's line on his inside and punted him off at Aragon, race officials set the rules about what's acceptable, and Miller clearly has a good memory.....he's been taking Marquez' inside line almost exclusively in recent races.

I hear Alzamora and Co have protested - clearly their memories are not quite as good.

I responded to some protests on this site after Aragon that it was a racing incident and "nothing to see here..move on". I haven't changed my position now that the roles are reversed. And let's be clear - Marquez finished, unlike Miller at Aragon.

There is a great thread on the forum part of the site that clearly shows Marquez did not take Miller's line at Aragon.

Agree, calvin, Nick Harris,a confused clown. Totally one eyed.
Preoccupied with stats and points. I mean eighteen laps out he was trying to calculate ,if so and so finishes here > and so on.Bable bable.
Thank god he let the other guy have a turn in the big race,although he can't pronounce Bastianini either !

People above talk of giving as good as getting, good for the goose/gander, etc. My take? Had Miller not whined so much about, well, everything in the past, waving his arms, gesturing, staring, etc., I'd be far more inclined to think today's events were just hard racing.

Miller quite obviously purposely banged into Marquez in the first corner on the first lap, forcing him wide. Then there was at least one time when Miller came barging into the same corner and used Marquez as a berm. But, to be honest, after a few laps, Marquez should have figured out what Miller was doing and stopped giving him the inside line going into Turn 1. 'Course, the one time he actually held the inside line there, Miller just turned right into Marquez, pretending he wasn't there.

Overall, Miller seemed to be doing things on porpoise to prove a point--one that exists mainly in his own head. Methinks 'tis The Great Jack Miller who can dish it out but can't take it.

Hugely entertaining race on so many levels.

[Moderator's note: This post has been edited. The use of epithets meant to be derogatory is usually enough to get a post deleted. They have all been changed here to the rider's name. The use of epithets is usually the start of the kind of discussion that we don't need or want here. Please refrain from doing so in the future]

The thing you're forgetting is that if Marquez beats Miller at Sepang, it's effectively title over. Miller absolutely HAD to ensure he stayed in front of Marquez lest he risk another rider getting between them and creating a gap. And as said previously the rules have actually been very consistently enforced in Moto3 this year, and While Miller walked a thin line he operated within the standards set out thus far. And I think you should look at a few of those passes where there was contact again. At no stage was Miller ever out of control entering the corner, the couple of times they ran wide was mainly due to the contact, which in itself wasn't even hard enough to unbalance Marquez as apposed to the Aragon incident. And there were a few times where it looked like Marquez just didn't feel like ceding the position and turned in anyway, and Miller obviously didn't cede ground either and he had the inside line. Terrific fighting performance by Miller on what is clearly an outgunned KTM on Sepangs straights.

Miller was never out of control, quite right and exactly what makes it wrong in my book. All perfectly calculated touches to barge always the same guy out, repeatedly.

"...if Marquez beats Miller at Sepang, it's effectively title over."

Perhaps it's coincidence, but that tagline thingy at the top of the web page now says: Kropotkin thinks...that you have to do whatever it takes when a championship is at stake."

It was tough racing. I just think Miller rode differently when Marquez was the bane of his immediate existence than he did when he was contesting position with the other riders. To me it seemed he did so to make a specific "screw you" point.

Which, as Kropotkin rightly reminds us, is precisely what champions do. Hmmm. My respect for Miller, although grudging, suddenly exists.

"Methinks 'tis The Great Jack Miller who can dish it out but can't take it."

Methinks you've got the chronology all wrong.

Miller first had to take it, then learned how to dish it out.

The Great Alex Marquez was the first one to dish it out and didn't at all look like he enjoyed taking it today.

Or, I dunno, maybe I did. My use of "Cocoa" as an alternate nickname for The Great Jack Miller came from an episode of the "Seinfeld" television show, wherein George wants his nickname to be "T-Bone" but everybody saw him on the other side of a window when he was angry about something and gesticulating wildly which reminded those who were watching him, but could not hear him, of a talking gorilla named "Cocoa" so that became George's nickname, much to his chagrin.

A few races ago I decided to start calling TGJM "Cocoa," because seeing his antics with my TV's sound turned down reminded me of George in that Seinfeld episode.

The first definition of the word "epithet" (as my version of Microsoft Word pulls it from the interweb) is "insult," and the second definition of "insult" is "to show contempt for somebody or something." However, the first synonym of "epithet" is "nickname."

So, I guess I'm confused about the overall rightness or wrongness of my using the nickname "Cocoa" for TGJM. On one hand, there's no arguing my contempt for him as one on whom the public spotlight is shone--at his request, by the way, since, I must assume, nobody held a gun to his head and told him to race motorcycles for Dorna.

On the other hand, does mere contempt justify the editing of my or anyone's post (and, to be clear, I'm happy to let my posts undergo whatever editing the administrator/moderator deems necessary if that's the price of admission to this deservedly much-loved website)? Does this mean we can show no contempt?

To me, it's a question of attitude versus civility. Ad hominem attacks are appeals to emotions, and are quite rightly seen by most to work against civility. Cute nicknames meant to make people smile, methinks, are not. Like, I call Pol Espargo "the youngest of the Escargot brothers" because, well, I just do, and I call Aleix "The Hellatious Pargo," because that's what I thought the announcers were calling him at the beginning of the year when I first started hearing his name repeatedly instead of just reading it.

I dunno, the whole thing seems pretty self-evident. The only thing I can think of that might gum up the works is if somebody thought I was using "Cocoa" as some kind of racial slur, although I'm not at all sure how that would work, given that cocoa powder is brown and the only brown part of TGJM is that moustache he's, for some reason, been trying to grow for the last who knows how long. Arrrggh, more contempt--but civil, wouldn't you agree?

Thanks for the explanation. I feared for a moment that Cocoa was some kind of US/Australian/biker/urban slang that was terrifically derogatory. Despite not finding it on the Urban Dictionary website, I erred on the side of caution. 

I don't remember seeing that episode of Seinfeld. I can see that as an acceptable nickname, but it does highlight the dangers of using specific cultural references which others might miss. This, I might add, is something I am personally guilty of all the time.

Thanks, Mr. Emmett. I, believing the world revolves around me, assumed everyone would remember my wonderful post from last August in which I first related the story of how I came up with my nickname for Mr. Miller. After all, it got four stars!

Didn't want to bore everybody by repeating myself. Kind of ironic, given the volume of words I ended up posting....

The end.

I re-read the Moderator's note that appears after my original post. I don't have access to it on this screen (reply to a comment), but the last sentence said something about epithets usually leading to the kind of discussion that Motomatters doesn't want as part of the site.

Okay, point taken. Again, though, to me it's a matter of civility. And, if we delete something because it might lead to incivility later, well, um, er, slippery slope, etc.

The whole point of professional sports is entertainment as commerce. Talking about what we just saw, opining on it, verbally jabbing back and forth with those who disagree with our beliefs, which are always obviously correct to anyone who bothers to look, is the only argument anyone can make for MotoGP racing's existence as a commercial entity. (yeah, yeah yeah, R&D blahblahblah)

Again, civility is the key. The price we pay for a free society is the occasional dip into incivility--and the key to maintaining a free society is self-correction. While I don't agree with the premise of the self-correction that led to my comments being edited, I do agree with the basic premise of self-correction. Therefore, if said editing was deemed necessary by the Motomatters powers-that-be as a means of maintaining civility here, guess I'll just have to live with it.

No more Seinfeld references.

You sound a little "authoritative " yourself. Everyone on this site ( me included ) uses confirmation bias occasionally . We try to be unbiased all the time but we are only human.

Why are we so worried about what happens off the bike anyway? This is not what defines a racer.

Let's be more concerned about what happens on the bike. This was the kind of race I'd like to see every week. So tough, hard, Moto3 at it's best.

@eskothomson can you please stop writing about yourself, and be more concerned with racing ? That would be good. Civil enough for you ?

...the world revolves around me; why shouldn't we concentrate on that?

without the guns. I wonder if the thin skinned folks posting here are aware of that?

When I was racing, there was nothing I enjoyed more than offering a competitor the choice of rolling off or running off... Rubbing and banging, all part of the game. Championship on the line, the gloves are totally off. If Capirossi can crash Harada out, anything goes... To quote Biaggi, "this isn't ballet".

+1.
Racing incidents.

I thought this was a motorcycle racing site........

There are any number of sites better suited to debate on the word "petulant". There are many definitions associated with the word in question. As none of you know which particular one David Emmett meant when he used that word, I suggest you avail yourselves of all available definitions. At which point I think even the most mean-spirited pedant would find one that fits.
Try a google search using "etymology petulant".
Should keep some of you busy for hours.....

...would likely be a racetrack. This is merely a blog. And all we're doing here is the online version of rubbing and banging, which Mike says is a good thing. Perhaps posting replies on a blog is war too.

And I think someone named Jacob Leech wrote the 'P' word, not Mr. Emmett. But they could be one and the same person, as I've never seen them both together.

I applaud Jack Miller for fighting tooth and nail for the championship. There was absolutely no way he was losing points to Marquez. I love that tenacity. I love how much he wants it.

That's all the nice things I have to say about his race.

I was amazed at how Miller managed to avoid contact with everyone on the track except for his only title rival. If this is actually acceptable behavior on the track, if I were the Estrella Galicia team manager, Rins' only task at Valencia would be to put Miller in the hospital and all of his equipment in the rubbish bin - on Friday.

The praise for Miller's on-track antics reminds me of the praise heaped upon Marco Simoncelli. Go back and read some forums and comments about how wonderful and refreshing Marco's behavior in the 250cc class was.

p.s. Oh yeah, when Miller complains about his injuries, we can call him petulant, too.

The difference between Miller and Simoncelli is that Miller gave his opponent a choice. Simoncelli just barged people off the track, Miller put his bike where Marquez wanted to put his. Not once was Marquez in danger of crashing. Simoncelli used his aggression to compensate for his talent. Miller used his aggression to amplify his talent. No comparison.

Any time someone makes deliberate contact with you they are significantly increasing the possibility of you crashing.

There's not a lot of difference between barging into the side of someone and putting your motorcycle on the line of someone who already is committed to that line. Each is designed to result in contact. One simply has a greater suicidal content. I really think it's just semantics.

On those instances where Webb ruled that "Miller made the turn," Miller also was unable to hold his line, drifting out far enough to let other riders slide inside, and deliberately cutting across Marquez' line, even when Marquez had conceded the inside line and had committed to the outside. And again, Miller did it only to Marquez.

"Taking someone's line" is kosher when you do it before they've committed to that line. I've had it done to me, and done it to others. No complaints. Running it up the inside of me and giving me the "choice" of contact or standing up and running off the track - serious complaints.

I can respect hard racing. The MotoGP race was an excellent example of it. But Miller's behavior this season - I'll simply point out once again that at age 16, Casey Stoner told Oxley that at this level, it's all about controlling your head. Miller has not shown the maturity of Stoner when Casey was years younger than Miller is now.

Then again, Dorna needs Australians in the mix, so even if Miller pulled a knife on someone mid-race Webb would probably give him another "stern warning ..."

Why would Dorna need Australians in the mix?
The Aussie viewing market (and population), is tiny compared to the rest of the world, and the official free to air broadcaster only shows the Moto GP race!!... no MOTO 2 or MOTO 3 or qualifying! (you need a MotoGP pass to see all that stuff). Mention the names Stoner, Miller, Doohan, Gardiner, Bayliss et al to the average Aussie, and they won't have a clue who you are on about.
The crowd at Phillip Island is very small in comparison to all other GP venues, and if it were not for the amazing track that is Phillip Island, Australia would probably not be offered the opportunity to host a GP race at all.
The misconception may occur from the disproportionate number of internationally successful riders emanating from such a small country, similar to the Finns in rallying.
Perhaps you mean "Dorna needs non-Spanish in the mix"?
In regard to Moto 3, the Marquez-Miller battle is epic. When historically has the lowest tier of Moto GP been the main talking point? Whoever wins at Valencia will be a very deserving champion.
The fact that Miller will be paid to ride a top level MotoGP bike next year (by people far more knowledgeable than us,who put their money where their mouth is), shows a victory and life-goal for Miller in itself. I wish Alex and Jack Godspeed. I'm glad I am alive in 2014 to watch them race.

"MotoGP" is a relatively new term for what used to be commonly called "WGP" or just "GP". The Motorcycling World Grand Prix Championship.

Historically, the lower displacement categories often provided closer, more intense racing. You are right though in that they may not have been the main talking point in publications or on TV.

They did however represent the best riders, on the best machines in the world in their respective categories. Many were specialists that remained in one class throughout their careers. Many manufacturers concentrated their efforts on the smaller classes. They were, for all intents and purposes, individual world championships.

Only since the introduction of the spec engine "Moto2" and age limited "Moto3" classes would I consider them "lower tier" in any way. The move has been to turn them into rider development classes. Sure, a lot of guys came up "through the ranks" in the old GP system but many stepped straight into GP500 from dirt track and "Superbike" backgrounds.

Look at a guy like Efren Vazquez. He's 28 as of last month and next year will be his final chance to ride in Moto3. He's only just now getting wins. He's also tiny, even by Pedrosa standards and will probably never land a "MotoGP" ride. I think he'd probably struggle with Moto2. But he's obviously one hell of a Moto3 rider.

I'd like to see a return to the individual championships. National series' and "rookies cups" are great for developing riders. Perhaps there should be some measures included to keep people from squatting on rides that are no longer competitive but I hate seeing a guy like Vazquez being pushed out simply because he's "too old". If he was too old and too slow, fine.

Please remember though that all three classes are the premier of the motorcycle road racing world.