Tourn46 wrote:I mean, it's a fair comment, but I wasn't really intending it to be a why isn't Jorge appreciated discussion... it's more about whether there is a perception that someone with a more exciting/flamboyant/unpredictable is more talented or "better" than someone LIKE Jorge who is smooth as silk. Whether or not this comes into the equation of someone being 'the GOAT'.CLX wrote:Jorge is definitely overlooked, but I don't think it's a matter of style. I believe it's a matter of being sandwiched between the most popular and polarizing riders since early 90s. Rossi, Stoner, Marquez. Between Rossi's popularity and the animosity towards the other two, the attention left to Lorenzo was smaller than that a triple champ would have usually had.
It’s a valid point in the discussion. It’s certainly much harder to “see” the perfection and recognize it.
I suppose with a trained eye when the cameras followed along long enough to permit, or standing track side at change in direction or fast entry, you’d be able to pick it up but even then it’s hard to see if you don’t also ride or at least been watching for many years as a prerequisite.
I now can mostly watch the races at face value without studying the time sheets after and get an adequate enough appreciation for the Job the riders did. The more visually appealing the less effort it takes to appreciate, for lack of better term it’s kind of a what you see is what you get. I still look at post race timesheets but it mainly just tells me now what the cameras didn’t show further back the order.
In Jorge’s hey day it wasn’t until I looked at the time sheets post race when my jaw really hit the floor. I recall one case vividly where he didn’t even need a lap to get up to speed but just the first two corners, a left and right turn, and after that he was on it sector by sector closer than you could click a stop watch in succession for the next 40 minutes plus.
I have not been as impressed by a set of numbers since.