FASTER

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RatsMC
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Rusty Bucket USA wrote:
In what I assume is two different views of the same event during one of the FP sessions, Bayliss is seen lighting it up out of Turn 4 and the nose picks up before the rear stops sliding.

Ugh! I remembe seeing that and thought it worth noting but forgot about it. Truly brilliant to watch.

It is this plate that gets bent by Pedrosa 15 months later at Estoril, and stays bent (forcing the re-fractured collarbone to stay cracked for nearly 3 weeks) until after Hayden races to 3rd at Valencia and wins the '06 Championship, before he tells anyone publicly. It is this image I have in mind whenever people attempt to say Hayden backed in to his Championship by "coasting" to 3rd after Rossi fell off. I'll hear from volunteers willing to try to replicate the feat... :!:

Haga is the only rider I have see do this and the only rider I would put money on being able to do it at all. Of course, that was Haga only broken bone in his career if you can believe that.

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RatsMC wrote:Something that really hit me when watching this was Hopkins expalining his focus. He was saying that weird things enter your head when you are riding and things like what you are going to eat for lunch come into your head. What surprised me was that he said when this happens he is at his best. My first response to this was confusion. Maybe this was the reason for some of Hopper's results. But after thinking about this for several hours, I realized that when I am playing Forza 2 or MotoGP 08, when I have found my rhythm and am setting laps within .1 second of each other, I am barely paying attention to any of the corners - or anything for that matter. That said, any distraction, breaks the focus - or lack thereof and I lose my pace. It is a weird state of mind and perhaps this is what Rossi has over everyone else. Perhaps he can get into and out of that state at will.

Early morning, tyres warmed; the zen like experience of the road the bike and yourself, the subconscious takes hold, I'm not even aware of my inputs, and the whole experience winds on, unfolds and flows...

Consider the experience availed to the average 'cage driver'. You sit cosseted in a plastic womb, I pod and phone tethered to the 'umbilicals' of the dash...never fully alienated from the pressures of the outside world, never truly liberated. You trundle along at the same speed as everyone else; queueing is a fact of life and your safety is presided over by an anonymous team of specialists probably thousands of miles away that develop impact absorbtion cages, air bags and ABS systems. Your vehicle is invariably confined to its utility function, merely to expedite you from A to B with minimal concentration. Now take such a person and furnish them with decade on a fast motorcycle. Suddenly they inhabit another universe, a hare among tortoises, spirited away to another dimension where everything around is seemingly frozen. Queues are now somebody else's problem, and your former tunnel vision is expanded to encompass 180 degrees akin to a lizard with swivelling eyes mounted on the side of its head. You nurture a sixth sense - it is after all a minefield out there. You learn to process every kind of road surface and grip potential, and years of chasing vanishing points, launching out of constant radius turns, propelling your gaze half a mile ahead give you a perma fixed 1000 mile stare. You dismount and your bike is still shaking it's head, laughing at your inability. And if God forbidyou finally take to the track, you really discover what tyres and brakes are for...thenthe moment of epiphany...the subconscious begins to governs your flow and the truly transcendent art of riding a motorcycle is born. That's precisely why it is said that four wheels move the body, while two wheels move the soul. It is no coincidence that as I was reminded on this forum while lurking last week, that Muggers was referred to a Zen temple prior to securing the Supersport Title for Ten Kate.

A Moto GP rider seemingly constantly operates at this level. Puppet Master Puig will tell you, that Dani's focus is unbreakable when he races the track and himself. He's gone in all senses of the word...even escaping the mesmeric evil influence of the sinister svengali himself. Of course, all Vale has to do is show him a wheel, and his nirvana like elevation soon comes crashing down to earth, (or the nearest air fence). Rossi himself unlike Pedrosa can maintain this 'higher state' even in when he's embroiled in the most intense on-track battle (providing Toni Elias isn't involved). It's all residing in the sub conscious. Remember PI last season, the noncholant adjustment of his dog leg/lever tension whilst simultaneously outbraking Toseland and Nakano into Doohans...one of the most fearsome corner entries on the planet.

Some years ago, KR Proton experimented with ship to shore for a while with Aoki. How tragic and intrusive would it have been to have broken that link with the inner self or something higher, as is the case in 'soulless' Formula 1 by having a outside voice piped into your helmet....imagine what it would mean for Dani!!!

Homily over.
'Stand on it until you can see God, then gently tap the brakes' - H.S.T.

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Hayshed wrote:
Homily over.
Great stuff. It is often difficult to maintain attention to long posts on forum (for my simple brain at least). However, that was well worth the attention.

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Keith Code refers to this as the $10 of your attention span. The more repetition (practice... hmmm, there's a tangent begging attention...) you experience, the more "change" is left for focusing on the challenge of the moment.
The internal combustion engine was not put on wheels just to rest the horses.

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For some reason, I never did this:
http://motomatters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1351
(reviews and commentary of the first 3 Mark Neale movies)

The other thread refers back to this one, but this one never refers to that one... :lol:
The internal combustion engine was not put on wheels just to rest the horses.

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In response to Rat's and Gustav's back and forthing and after working almost 20 years on two strokes all I can think is that the current crop sounds like a fart in a bathtub. My best memory was Quick Mick going through the triple right behind the paddock in Jerez on the 500 screamer Honda and hearing exactly when the thing was spinning and hooking up. It simply made the hair on your arms stand up. Yow, Zippy. Time marches on and now we have the complete Game Boy generation of bikes with all sorts of electronic goo-goos. Yuck. How do I get English speaking Amazon movie junk in Europe? Everytime I try I find Amazon US won't deliver to a European adress. Winter and the testing ban is too long...even if it doesn't go ring, ding, ding.

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Faster is the first film, The Doctor, The Tornado & The Kentucky Kid was the second film then both were followed up by Mark Neale's 'FASTEST' (not faster 2 as a poster said)
If only producers could see into the future to add or remove clips/quotes.
One part in the Fastest film is where Marco Simoncelli is driving a car and talking to the camera and saying "when we race we are gladiators and we just want to kill them"!
Now the point i am getting to is, at the time of the film being promoted over here (uk) Marco had literally just taken out Dani Pedrosa at Le Mans and ruining Dani's title challenge and also himself being berated by most people as being dangerous, so not the best of timing.
Then for me, when i did finally get my copy from the States for £25.00 i watched it and thought what a fantastic film and then the following race week end Marco was gone, sad times hey.
I love all three films and don't get to re-watch them as much as i'd like due to the Tv being taken up by bloody Toy Story 1,2 & 3, Fireman Sam, (Phineas & Ferb which i admit to really liking) and other stuff my 4 yr old boy decides i have to watch, but i suppose i cant grumble too much over xmas as i get to watch all the racing right through the year and not have a great deal of interaction with him or my 10 yr old daughter, but before some of you say i'm a bad daddy, do actually record some of it and take my kids out and do things with them.
Is anyone else bored shitless with the garbage that is on over xmas and the total lack of bike racing type shows?
Cant wait for the week end of 24th Feb when the WSB season kicks off at Phillip island....Need a fast forward button.
Have a great New Year everyone...

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