Hasn't F1 learnt anything from the motogp disaster?

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Hasn't F1 learnt anything from the motogp disaster?

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Radical new years for 2013
1. 1.6litre four-cylinder turbocharged engine (~10k rpm)
2. fuel mass flow rate limit (making engines more fuel efficient) <- It has been mooted forthis flow limit to be constantly reduced year on year.
3. 5 engines per driver
4. Target of 650 bhp at 3.0 bar turbo boost
5. ground effect aerodynamics
6. increased frontal crash protection
7. 15" or larger wheels


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Not that I care anymore, because years of processional F1 has left me yawningly uninterested [yes I hear it has been better recently. sorry, don't care] but, how about putting a relatively highish aerodynamic drag factor limit on the cars which they cannot design under so that the old racing art of slip streaming can once again make F1 at least half as interesting as bike racing.

And here's an idea. Fill in the gaps between the wheels so the danger when overtaking is reduced. Oh and while we are at it, make the cars and wheels narrower, so they can actually get passed by another. Can you imagine it..? The Monaco GP features overtaking. No, neither can I. :lol:
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heng47 wrote: Taken from gpweek.
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Just read that bloke's post who found F1 yawningly boring, and found out it was ME. Well nothing's changed. Just finished my guitar practice and, looking for something to do, in these rain swept summer weeks [bloody hell, why are ALL my hobbies of the outdoor sort..?] I thought I'd watch the Canadian F1 GP. I mean, if there was one F1 race on the calendar that was guaranteed to be good, it would be from Canada. And I hear that it was good - excellent even. Better than the Silverstone MotoGP..!

Can I be bothered..? 4 wheels..? No, I don't think it's going to happen. Yes, I went to the BBC iPlayer. Yes, Jake Humphreys gave me loads of build up. Yes, I knew it was a good race, but... I spent years nodding off to that damn motorsport. I clicked to somewhere else. I can't give it one more chance to excite me. It's all over. The End.

Fundamentally. 4 wheels boring. 2 wheels probably not so. Guess after all these years of riding bikes and wondering... I am definitely a motorcyclist, by choice, and a fan.
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I too am one of the many who have abandoned F1,, Hill, Senna, Berger,, etc,, they were among the last to peak/pilot a proper F1 car,, kind of like the death of 500s.

When the V10 died,, so did I,,, nothing in gods world would ever match the sound and furry of a Ferrari or Renault V10 at full song,,, V8s? what a joke,,, 4 cylinder turbo 4s? you've go to be joking,, Ecclestone thinks that low mid "torque" is not necessary,, Monaco will be absolutely a joke when a street car will out accelerate an F1 car to 50 mph out of a 10 mph hairpin. I might be exaggerating, but that's the general direction of what once was the perfect display of wonderful mechanical excess.

booooo F1,,
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Faster1 wrote:I too am one of the many who have abandoned F1,, Hill, Senna, Berger,, etc,, they were among the last to peak/pilot a proper F1 car,, kind of like the death of 500s.

When the V10 died,, so did I,,, nothing in gods world would ever match the sound and furry of a Ferrari or Renault V10 at full song,,, V8s? what a joke,,, 4 cylinder turbo 4s? you've go to be joking,, Ecclestone thinks that low mid "torque" is not necessary,, Monaco will be absolutely a joke when a street car will out accelerate an F1 car to 50 mph out of a 10 mph hairpin. I might be exaggerating, but that's the general direction of what once was the perfect display of wonderful mechanical excess.

booooo F1,,
maybe you don't know this, but before your beloved V10's, there were tiny little 1.5 cyl turbo-charged engines, and no atmosferic engine came close to the power they produced. 1000BHP during the races, and up to 1200 during qualifying ;)

and the races were great in those days : want to pass someone ? just ad a little turboboost. next round the "passed guy" did it to and took back his place, and so on.
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