Rossi Speaks On Twitter On Ducati Exit: "It's A Shame We Could Not Be Competitive"

Valentino Rossi has briefly broken his media silence on his departure from Ducati, posting updates on his Twitter page ahead of this weekend's Red Bull Indianapolis GP at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. The three tweets read in Italian as follows:

È stato un grande peccato non riuscire a essere competitivo con la Ducati, sarebbe stata una bella soddisfazione per me e per tutti i ragazzi che hanno lavorato con me e ci proveranno fino alla fine. E poi sarebbe stato divertente per tutti i nostri tifosi. Mi dispiace. Comunque mancano ancora 8 gp alla fine, lavoreremo al massimo per fare qualche bella gara. Ciao a tutti ci sentiamo da Indy. #valeducati

Rossi posted the updates solely in Italian, but a rough translation of his words would read:

It has been a real shame that I have not been able to be competitive with the Ducati, it would have given me great satisfaction, as well as to all the guys who have worked with me and who will be working right to the end. And it would have been great fun for all of our fans. I am sorry. But there are still 8 races to the end of the season, we are working to the maximum to make some great races. Ciao to everyone and see you at Indy.

The Ducati press release ahead of the Indianapolis MotoGP round glosses over Rossi's decision to leave, the Bologna factory having already made an earlier announcement of Rossi's departure. Rossi is quoted as saying "This break served as an opportunity to make important decisions for the future, but now I want to return to thinking about the races because we want to improve and during the weekend it’s important to focus completely on what we have to do on the track." Team boss Vitto Guareschi also only touches on the affair, saying "The past month has been very intense for everyone, but now things are clearer."

Rossi is scheduled to be in the regular pre-event press conference on Thursday at Indianapolis, where he will undoubtedly face a barrage of questions about his future. Alongside him in the press conference will be both Jorge Lorenzo and Casey Stoner; both men are also likely to face a number of questions, Lorenzo on his thoughts on Rossi returning to race alongside him in the Yamaha garage, and Stoner, for his thoughts on Rossi's inability to make the Ducati competitive.

Valentino Rossi has briefly broken his media silence on his departure from Ducati, posting updates on his Twitter page ahead of this weekend's Red Bull Indianapolis GP at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. The three tweets read in Italian as follows: È stato un grande peccato non riuscire a essere competitivo con la Ducati, sarebbe stata una bella soddisfazione per me e per tutti i ragazzi che hanno lavorato con me e ci proveranno fino alla fine. E poi sarebbe stato divertente per tutti i nostri tifosi. Mi dispiace. Comunque mancano ancora 8 gp alla fine, lavoreremo al massimo per fare qualche bella gara. Ciao a tutti ci sentiamo da Indy. #valeducatiRossi posted the updates solely in Italian, but a rough translation of his words would read:

Comments

Clearer Vito ?

Things were pretty clear back in Valencia testing 2010.
Post race testing Valencia 2012 is one thing I'm looking most forward to as much as Sundays race at Indianapolis.
This is not confined to Rossi's exit from Ducati.
'We could not be competitive'. Stoner was lambasted for using the 'We' word within the context of winning or losing any particular race.
Nevermind. Fair comment from Rossi. I sincerely hope both Valentino and Andrea have a sterling outing after the Ricardo Tormo event 2012 on their respective steeds.
MotoGP as a drawcard certainly needs it.

Total votes: 95

We?

Rossi said «non sono riuscito» which is "I didn't manage". If it was "we" it would have been «Non siamo riusciti». Rossi, and he is not the only one, often use "we" for sucess and "I" for trouble.

It may get lost in translation.

Total votes: 93

We vs I

Thanks for the correction. That was a bit of automatic translation on my part (all racers always say we, so I wrote we...). I'll fix it.

Total votes: 80

Actually in this twitter text

Actually in this twitter text it says: "È stato un grande peccato non riuscire a essere competitivo". That has no pronoun and it translates: "It has been a real shame not managing to be competitive". But I agree that it's usually pretty clear when he means the team or just him.

Total votes: 67

Ducati

Ducati under its current management is like the Italian army during ww2 in north Africa --badly in need of more Germans.

Total votes: 91

Reminds of the World's

Reminds of the World's thinnest book...

Total votes: 69

It's a shame

but you can't win 'em all.

If this somehow spurs Ducati and AUDI into more serious and fruitful efforts, then MotoGP will be better in the mid term. Until then it will be better if Rossi is able to seriously threat Lorenzo, and vice-versa if the situation arises, for MotoGP's sake.

Total votes: 69

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Total votes: 76

All Smiles From Stoner!

I for one can't wait to read what Casey will say about the Rossi/Ducati failure after all this time... and right before he retires from MotoGP. Will Rossi give Stoner praise for his wins on the Ducati??? David... I hope you will be there for this conference! This should be the best press conference of all time...

Total votes: 100

I doubt that - all of that

Actually I don't think Stoner will derive much pleasure from this - the Schadenfraude (sp?) is already cold on the Rossi/Ducati thing. And Rossi has no need to piss in Stoner's pocket, the facts do all the talking there. If anything, Rossi will be saying a quiet thank-you for Stoner's retirement.

As has been said, it's a shame that it didn't work - but there's no shortage of precedents for this if you know your GP history. It's just that in the 'modern era' the fans need to slice and dice every tiny aspect of every situation, ad nauseum, until the molehill becomes a mountain. Oh, and given that it was Rossi, the world basically nearly came to an end because he wasn't winning (no slight on Rossi who I have a lot of respect for, that one was aimed at Dormant. I mean Dorna).

Old news, bring on 2013. I can't wait to see Marquez on the Honda.

Total votes: 89

Pretty true

Pretty true on everything ....

"It's just that in the 'modern era' the fans need to slice and dice every tiny aspect of every situation, ad nauseum, until the molehill becomes a mountain."

I am sure Ago had better times and less non-sense around him. So Fast Freddie :)

The internet adds to the equation but frankly without it there would be no motogpmatters.com (neither our comments) and we would be not better off.

Total votes: 65

Hmmmm....I guess he can.

Hmmmm....I guess he can. Though I don't recall Rossi ridiculing Stoner for failing miserably on the Honda in 2006.

Total votes: 91

Probably because

Getting a pole position, podium and finishing 8th on a second string satellite bike with 3rd tier michelins and very little money can't be considered a failure.
Not having a silver spoon is not the same as failing.

Total votes: 101

I remember early this year

I remember early this year Dorna CEO quoted "Rossi will be competitive next year..", wonder how much involvement he had with Rossi going back to Yamaha. No doubt it's great for the sport with Rossi and Lorenzo going at it.

Total votes: 79

Was thinking the same

But wasn't it "Rossi will be on a competitive bike next year"? If I remember correctly there was a meeting between Carmelo, Arrivabene(the Marlboro guy who pays the salary of the Ducati riders) and Rossi. That's probably when it was decided.

Total votes: 71

The lead story on motogp.com atm...

"MotoGP focuses on Indianapolis after Rossi secures (short-term) future..."

...Of the series!

Bit of a conspiracy theory, but not beyond the bounds of possibility that Dorna had a hand in this move.

Total votes: 60

Something ends so something new begins

Rossi and Ducati gave it a go. It was quite a cautionary tale wasn't it? It will be interesting to see if Rossi can challenge Lorenzo next year and prevent a run-away championship by Jorge. Looking forward to next season after all.

Total votes: 77

Cautionary, indeed. The past

Cautionary, indeed. The past two years with Ducati/Rossi and MotoGP in general have driven home some fundamental truths about building a title-winning racing team. Solid engineering, relentlessly refined, and performance that the pilot can use seem to keep rising to the top. Innovation is fun and interesting (Brabham fan car, or Tyrrell P34), but it's not the way to the top, nor is hiring the best pilot and then just kinda hoping for the best.

Total votes: 72

Stoner's response to questions of Rossi's lack of competitivenes

should simply be: 'You should be asking him, not me' - because no matter what he says, it will be twisted in a thousand different ways. Stoner had so much ordure heaped at his feet during his Ducati years; only Carlo Pernat had the grace to come out publicly and say 'Sorry, Casey, that we doubted you, now we see what you were dealing with'.

When Stoner announced he was leaving Ducati, Guareschi was nearly in tears on camera; Ducati had the grace to put up a large 'Thank you, Casey' tribute at Valencia; Preziosi and Suppo have consistently stated since their appreciation of what he brought to and did for the team. Stoner himself has never dumped on the Ducati Corse guys (or the bike itself to any great degree, other than to state the bleeding obvious). The contrast is pretty obvious.

MotoGp will be the better for Rossi being on a bike 'that he can ride like Rossi', without doubt. The motoracing world wanted to see how Rossi vs. Stoner on the same bike would play out, and no amount of rationalisation of Ducati's performance relative to the rest of the field post 2010 vs. pre 2010 is going to obliterate the fact of 23 wins and 42 (?) podiums vs. (so far) no wins and 2 podiums. The two riders that will go down in legend forever as being the only ones to really succeed on a bike that nobody else could effectively manage are Hailwood and Stoner, (and it's ironic that those two happen to be tied for premier-class victories).

No matter how he slices the pie, Rossi has to live with the nagging doubt that for the rest of his life, no matter where he goes, somebody is going to bring up the disparity between himself and Stoner on the Ducati. That is the moustache on his Mona Lisa.

Total votes: 127

Very well put!

While the whole comment of yours was a good read, the last point made me rather wonder

No matter how he slices the pie, Rossi has to live with the nagging doubt that for the rest of his life, no matter where he goes, somebody is going to bring up the disparity between himself and Stoner on the Ducati. That is the moustache on his Mona Lisa.

Does Rossi really have to doubt his talent after so many championships and victories?

It would take a huge amount of courage and confidence on your skills to jump ship from one manufacturer to another especially the one you are leaving is a proven championship contender.

That Rossi did when he was on a Honda with 3 world championships and joined Yamaha. After 4 WCs with Yamaha he moved on to another project which he thought would provide him some motivation and drive to succeed. He knew that Ducati was a proven winner in the hands of Casey, but what he didnt know was how much volatile ducati was and the amount of talent Casey had. It must have dented his confidence a bit when he threw his legs over the ducati and approached the first corner and thinking about what Casey had to deal with in his stint at Ducati.

But as everyone said Ducati had a superior bike in 2007 and a superior talent was riding the bike like no other and won the championship that year.

If i remember correctly Rossi had never belittled Stoner rather he has heaped praises on him saying that 'He never understood how Casey was so fast right out of the blocks' meaning he would set the fastest lap of the race within the first two or three laps.

Even Graziano was saying the same thing about Stoner.

Has Stoner left a dent on Rossi's confidence - Yes, he knew that immediately after Valencia 2010.

How i love to see Stoner back at Ducati for 2012 and see how he fares on the latest iteration of the machine.

Sorry for too big a rant - but here we are talking about two legends in their own way!

Total votes: 82

He did...

I remember Rossi did indeed speak a little disparagingly once saying 'Stoner wasn't pushing that bike hard enough...' or words to that effect. Shall dig out the quote.

On a topic like this that is so emotional for many people it isn't one comment in isolation - it wasn't simply Rossi's comment, it was also JB's comment (about fixing the bike in 90sec) that stung. Stoner has repeatedly said he has immense respect for the folks at Ducati - talking about how hard they work and how they were busting their balls to sort the bike.

Rossi has indeed had to climb down a bit and be markedly more gracious after he actually tried the Ducati.

Total votes: 74

Similarities

MotoGP riders are like American Presidents - their terms in office are best evaluated a number of years after they have retired. Let the cold, calculating analysis begin only after the passionate love and hatred towards their respective performances have long cooled down. For presidents, fifty years are necessary. MotoGP riders can probably get away with ten.

All this talk of how the last two years has affected Rossi's status as GOAT is way premature. He hasn't retired yet, fer chrissakes! That kind of talk is best reserved for once he calls it a day, and we can start to coldly examine the stats.

Total votes: 83

A younger Rossi would have

A younger Rossi would have been more motivated to tame the Ducati. Rossi is leaving Ducati for similar reasons as Stoner. Stoner left because he got tired of taking the risks necessary to make the Duc go fast; Rossi didn't ever seem that interested.

Back in the day, when Michael Schumacher moved from Benetton to Ferrari, and Gerhard Berger went the other way, Berger got to test Schumacher's Benetton. Berger immediately recognized and appreciated Schumacher's genius noting the Benetton in Schumacher's setup was completely undriveable. Twitchy and nervous as all get out, but Schumacher won the World Championship with it.

I'm pretty sure Rossi knows in order to ride the Duc fast, he would increase his risk of hitting the ground... A LOT. Can he do it? Maybe when he was younger. Is he interested in doing it? Obviously not.

Total votes: 91

Not so sure

It is always easy to speculate what might have been if Rossi was younger when he got on the Duc but hitting the ground about 12 times last year whilst going on average 1 second a lap slower is not riding with reduced risk. It does make for a good excuse.

Total votes: 69

I'm curious here; how do we

I'm curious here; how do we judge how hard a rider is pushing a bike without seeing the data?

Wasn't Rossi off that bike 13 or 14 times last year, and he wasn't previously known as a 'crasher' (crashers don't win WCs). So if coming off it is a measure of pushing it, then he must have been riding it to the limit then?

Stoner also used to 'bin' the Ducati a lot in the latter years, did that say more about the bike than Stoner?

How often did Stoner come off last year on a Honda; not much. So either he wasn't trying so hard as he used to and its easy for him, or he could tell where the limit is because the bike gives the right feedback, and has the skill to ride right up to it?

Total votes: 77

How do you judge a rider's

How do you judge a rider's performance relative to another rider? Lap times.

Rossi fell off the Honda NSR500 and the RCV211V quite a bit. Rossi is not confused about the risks involved.

The Hondas and Yamahas are obviously behaving in such a way that makes the riders more comfortable. Stoner no longer has to take the same level of risk to ride at a high level; so he just complains about the Bridgestones these days. ;-)

Total votes: 79

"Just complains about the Bridgestones" ???

Well, actually, complains about the Bridgestones, the circuits, the CRTs, the CRT riders, the rules, the atmosphere... etc.

Total votes: 87

Rossi will sleep just fine....

"Rossi has to live with the nagging doubt that for the rest of his life, no matter where he goes, somebody is going to bring up the disparity between himself and Stoner on the Ducati. "

No problem IMO. Rossi just has to bring up the disparity in World Championships they each have. 9-2 I'm sure Rossi can live without having secured a championship on the Ducati as Casey can live knowing he well behind in Championships.

Total votes: 86

Casey clearly trying to shift

Casey clearly trying to shift emphasis from the average season he's having(dare I say, given caseys age and the Honda Rossi would have the title sewn up by now). He left Ducati for the same reasons as Rossi so wtf is he talking about.???? Tossing the v whilst disappearing over the horizon always leaves a bad impression in my opinion.

Total votes: 72

Rossi Chooses Warrior’s Path

Chris Martin's very interesting take on Valentino's return to Yamaha...
http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/motogp-rossi-chooses-warriors-path

And here is Michael Scott's excellent overview and analysis of the Ducati/Rossi saga...
http://cyclenews.coverleaf.com/cyclenews/20120814#pg17

Both of these articles are well-informed, balanced, and thought-provoking, IMO.

Total votes: 81

Thanks

Thanks

Total votes: 71

Stoner's comments

If you want to see Casey's comment on the move read here:
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/stoner-launches-motogp-attack...

As for the Warrior article I see it as more ego driven than warrior. Rossi believes he can race with Lorenzo. The trouble is Jorge is now faster than any rider (ignoring Casey) he has faced before.

Total votes: 63

Ouch!

That is interesting. Stoner clearly feels for Ducati.

His comments are not about his vs Rossi's results. Just raising a big question on Rossi's commitment to Ducati and the big 'boasts'.

Total votes: 77

Stoner is a bitter little fellow isn't he?

I love what he can do on a track, but in so many interviews I read or see of him there is this seething resentment just under the surface - towards other riders, manufacturers (often even his current employer) - which he struggles to repress. It doesn't help make him likeable. Where does this come from?

Total votes: 91

Try being non-European and

Try being non-European and making it in a sport like MotoGP.

As for the comments against Rossi & Burgess - they disrespected him and his team with their comments. He is well within his rights (especially now that it has all played out so famously) to respond. No surprise that it's with spite tbh. The egg isn't on Stoners' face.

Total votes: 102

It's difficult to comment

It's difficult to comment here saying anything critical of Stoner for fear of being a 'flag waving Rossi boy', so you're being bold paulj!

But yes, so often reporters like Steve Parrish at the BBC, observe that he goes around like a bear with a sore head. He appears to readily hit out at all points of the compass when things aren't going exactly his way, and sometimes even when they are.

Admittedly it must really stick in his craw that Rossi is enormously famous, has made more money than the other 'aliens' ever will, and outside of forums, is very popular with the paying fans. I was amazed at the reception he got at Silverstone after a poor race, he stopped and waved to every stand, and they cheered him to the rafters, if you are a class rider like Lorenzo or Stoner with a proven record, that could be very galling.

Stoners' a brilliant rider, the sport will miss him and I really wish he wouldn't retire because it needs class riders like him, but all in all, I think its best to ignore the off-track attitudes and focus on the racing. I hope he returns sometime.

Total votes: 75

more on stoners comments

more on stoners comments can be found here http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2012/August/... ... a nice article by bitr IMO

i completely agree with this part:

"Valentino obviously doesn't want to push limits and ride a bike that is not perfect. He has admitted that. If he's had a bike that is that good in Yamaha before and hasn't had to push when the bike is not perfect then God knows how good that bike is. "

Total votes: 69

I think MCN tends to make up

I think MCN tends to make up quotes when they don't have any real ones.

Some of the text is the same as another article posted here, I think they fabricated the rest. They have a knack of getting quotes from riders between races, do they have all the riders mobile numbers? Can they just call up them up mid week and get an interview, I don't think so.

Total votes: 71

If Vale wasn't trying, why did he crash so much?

Did I read somewhere that Rossi has had more crashes in last year's season on the Ducati (12?) than in any previous season in the top flight? How does that square with not trying, if that's true?

Total votes: 80

Casey has talked at length

Casey has talked at length about how similar the yam and Honda are on ability ,despite being himself he should be able to work that out for himself surely?

Total votes: 71

What is the truth?

Given the mind games that get played in any sport (and at least the language is less crude in bike racing than Premier football, even if the feelings are much the same) it's understandable that Stoner feels as he does. However, that doesn't make him correct.
As has been reported on this site before, Burgess and Rossi have been quoted out of context. What they said was not about fixing the bike in 80/90 secs. come what may. It was qualified that if it was a decent bike (or words to that effect) it shouldn't take too long to fix.
That's a lot different.
Much less interesting for the media crowd though......
I thought that Burgess was a twit for saying what he was reported as saying, but the full transcript gives a quite different connotation.
Stoner's upbringing as I have read it gives insights into his background that explain why he is so good at riding what he is given. Rossi complimented his natural ability to go fast from lap 1.
His reported comment on Rossi seems to mirror what Rossi was reported as saying about him not trying hard enough on the Ducati. Who is right? IMO neither. Rossi said it because he didn't undertand the bike, Stoner because he's ...angry?

Total votes: 82

Handbags at dawn - we love it!

That's quite an incendiary set of comments from Casey - don't expect peace to break out in that war of words anytime soon! I'm a big Rossi fan, but actually I agree with a lot of what Casey had to say. Rossi has a big ego. He thought he could bend the Duke to his will and he was wrong. If JB meant what he said about fixing the recalcitrant career-destroyer in 80 seconds, well that was impolitic hubris of a magnitude born only of winning multiple world championships with multiple bikes.

But I think Casey is too quick to condemn Rossi for jumping ship now. I drove the width of Spain to watch Rossi's first test on the Ducati (I didn't even see the GP, just the test) and it was most discouraging. It was obvious to the naked eye that he was struggling to understand the dynamics of the beast. By contrast, Casey was really on it from the first few laps on his new steed (the Honda). Afterwards he looked not so much like the proverbial cat who got the cream, but rather the cat who got the keys to the dairy AND the fish-mongers down the road. He turned his title prospects around by jumping from a largely unforgiving, uncompetitive bike onto a much better one (or maybe he was pushed, but if so, that was the luckiest bump-start he'll ever have). Stoner is a rider of astonishing skill - the most skillful in the paddock - but his comments are laced with a bitterness and myopia that will never endear him to neutrals.

Is it factually correct to say that Rossi is regularly getting beaten by Hayden and Barbera? Maybe in practice, where no points are given out, but when it comes to races I think Rossi has almost always beaten Barbera and is better than level-pegging with Hayden. The only race I can remember where NH trounced VR was the last one, at Laguna Seca, which is something of a specialist track for Nicky where he's recorded two of his three GP wins.

The helmet design at Mugello is a puzzle. It sent all the wrong signals about Vale's intentions and is justly criticised by Casey. I can only put it down to VR's highly emotional nature. Perhaps at that point he was leaning towards staying (with Audi's promises fresh in his ears)? By the time (or perhaps very shortly after) he dumped the Duke at the top of the corkscrew, I think he'd decided to go to Yamaha.

He's going to have to eat several large slices of humble pie for doing it (and perhaps thereby learn some humility), but who would seriously condemn him except avid Ducati fans and VR46 haters? The guy was used to winning (it's a good feeling, isn't it, Casey - maybe the best feeling?) and it has become patently clear that Vale has neither the hunger or the heart to keep flogging the dead horse until Dr Audistein sparks it back into life again. He was very badly hurt at Mugello 2010. I'm not sure if CS has ever suffered a compound fracture, but I dare say it might leave some scars if he did. One of Vale's mates died in an accident that he was involved in; that's not trivial - I bet it tends to focus one's mind somewhat on mortality, the meaning of life, one's legacy. VR has only a precious couple of years left in which to regain some glory, and he's chosen to do it in direct competition against perhaps the most complete rider we've seen in a couple of decades - Lorenzo. As Suppo said, that takes balls.

I also find it interesting that Casey seems to take a swipe at the Yamaha riders when he says "God knows how good that bike is". You see, Casey has a huge ego, too. Lorenzo is beating him, therefore he must have a better bike. A world-class racer cannot afford self-doubt, and CS probably has the least of anyone in MotoGP (with much justification). We see it each time he shakes his head in disgust when someone gets in his way on HIS track (that is, any track he rides on). We see it when he complains about the new Bridgestone front (why haven't they designed it for HIS Honda?). The history of premier class GP racing is littered with huge egos, and thank God for that! It gives us heroes and villains - it imbues the racing with a moral story arc that is essential to any drama.

But I think I know what really sticks in Casey's craw: Valentino gets away with a lot more than he ever could. VR is more famous, and will continue to be more famous (and more loved by the casual spectator) than Casey could ever hope for, even if Vale gets the rules bent in his favour, gets special treatment, makes Dorna his bitch (or appears to). Huge egotism is forgiven as long as it is allied with stunning talent AND oodles of charisma. Think of Muhammed Ali - what a loud-mouthed egotist he was, but what skill, what charm! He is perhaps the most universally loved and respected ex-sportsman on the planet. Maybe Casey doesn't want to be loved, he just wants to win races. But he wants to do it on a level playing-field and he seems to think that the pitch is always sloping upwards for him. Rossi doesn't play fair sometimes, it's true - he recognises the eternal dance between justice and 'the show' that must go on; the show that pays all their wages because it holds our attention. Maybe we are to blame?... I don't care, I'm just really, really looking forward to next year.

Total votes: 95

Good

Very well written, perhaps not the 80 seconds story. To be fair to JB he said a different thing and then it has extrapolated in an another meaning.

But I like intelligent and articulate comments that enrich the site.

As per the riders they all bring their own style and human traits to make the big story. Good or bad they all have one .... it's more about enjoying the differences than criticising. Unless you get a Stoner on track with a CE as soon as he gets off the bike :) Just kiddin'

Total votes: 69

Great comments, DoctorBike

DoctorBike, a very good post. "Handbags at dawn" is a tantalizing prospect, but unfortunately only Rossi and Lorenzo will show up, while Stoner will be "on the beach."

Total votes: 67

Helmet design cue.

The helmet design at Mugello is a puzzle. It sent all the wrong signals about Vale's intentions and is justly criticised by Casey. I can only put it down to VR's highly emotional nature. Perhaps at that point he was leaning towards staying (with Audi's promises fresh in his ears)? By the time (or perhaps very shortly after) he dumped the Duke at the top of the corkscrew, I think he'd decided to go to Yamaha.

That helmet design was meant to be between the fans and Vale. Not between Ducati and Vale.

It was to say 'Let's stick together(fans and Rossi)' during the the tough times.

Total votes: 69

The infamous '80 second' quote.

Make of it what you will:

"I can watch some of these lesser riders on the Ducatis and you can see that the bikes are, in my opinion, unsuitably set for what they want to try and do with them. I’m not saying anybody’s doing a bad job. I see these things wobbling around. When I think, clearly, if we had that issue with Valentino it’d be fixed in 80 seconds, but some riders don’t like the hardness of the bike, because they don’t get the feel. But then when they’re riding around and it’s too soft they’re not going forward either. So you’ve got to be able to create the feel with the hardness to avoid all that sloppiness. I don’t think there are any issues in the bike that are a big worry to me."

The whole article: http://bit.ly/8ZShRC

Total votes: 65

Inevitable move

Rossi back to Yamaha is no surprise. Personally, I think he is making the right move. The guy was clearly just plain not happy with the Ducati. He could have done better with more application to it, but why? Ducati have proven they can make a competitive bike in the past, but this one was too far off the mark. That front end seemingly being one of the largest issues.

ANY of the Yamahas or Hondas Factory or Satellite seem to be better than the damn near CRT slow Factory Ducati's.

At least this way he will have a CHANCE to win a championship. Because like a said before, having someone up there that is hated or loved, (hopefully an equal amount of both), leads to better racing. Rossi is that. Many want to see him beat, and more want to see him win. It is all about the tension. And if anyone brings tension it is Rossi. Just the anticipation of what will go down between him and Lorenzo is enough for me. Just think back to Japan 2010. Whether you think Rossi was a dirty mother$%^er or not it was worth watching.

Total votes: 78

The Racers will race, the Others go home

Stoner's comments are unseemly, but he had to endure unseemly comments in 2010 so his motivation is understandable (although regrettable). What Stoner did in 2010 is basically the same as what Rossi is doing now... moving to a better bike and a better team. Casey is immensely talented, but his jealousy of Rossi is palpable. Rossi is a racer. A fairy tale ending on the red bike would have been nice, but it was not in the cards. So he is doing what racers *always* do... going for the win. Stoner will go home to deal privately with the demons that haunt him. He is a very troubled young man. I wish him well, but I suspect V8 Supercars are not the answer for him.

Total votes: 102

Have to say one aspect of

Have to say one aspect of 2013 I'm looking forward is how Jorge reacts to Rossi's return in terms of popularity.

My respect for Lorenzo has increased year on year since he joined MotoGP. Like Stoner, he's undoubtedly one of the few fastest men on the planet.

He is smart, fast, knows how to pace a race and his consistency is awesome. Whilst he might not "hang the bike out" like Stoner, his precision is equally if not more impressive.

But there is one huge difference between Lorenzo and Stoner. Lorenzo craves fame and adulation. Stoner doesn't care (in fact judging by recent comments, Stoner resents it more now than ever).

Rossi, whilst being well out of the front group these last 2 years (I HATE the term "Aliens", even when VR was there) has still remained extremely popular. I was amazed at Silverstone how much support Rossi still had. More than half at least.

Rossi returning to Yamaha will no doubt bring back/reinforce his fan's passion for number #46. Jorge will relish beating Rossi at every race.

Thing is, if Jorge does beat Rossi every race, I suspect the vast majority of support will still go to Rossi, especially if he gets on the podium regularly.

How will this affect Lorenzo? He is dominating the supposed GOAT yet most people still cheer for Rossi? Even more so if Rossi does better than his Ducati period (I think we all agree that's assured) in 2013.

How will Jorge take this?

Total votes: 72

Lorenzo just wants to beat Rossi.

I don't think he cares about the fame and glamor as much as Rossi does. I really think Lorenzo just wants to beat the most legendary name in MotoGP on equal machinery. Even the 'celebrations' I think are a way to annoy Rossi more than something Lorenzo really loves to do. We've not seen this from him ever since Rossi became a (temporary?) midfield runner.

Total votes: 70

Stoner will never be back

Yes, he is bitter and has attacked Rossi, but he did not fire the first shot just the last.

1. He is driving supercars.
2. He has a new sponsor redbull.
3. He's been buying/getting into carts.
4. He is a close friend of Mark Webber.

I suspect he has ambitions of being both a motogp and F1 champ, long way to go of cause.

Total votes: 79

Stoner to F1?

Wow, quite a prediction.

F1 = (everything Stoner hates about MotoGP) x 100 x 100.

Total votes: 83

Yes it is but

He's been away from home for many years, he is coming home to learn a new skill set, and let go of the politics for a while, but not once has he indicated he will be giving up racing, just Motogp.

BTW, do I think he'll be any happier doing anything else? No, because of his relationship with his father (who taught him to trust no one, they are all out to get you). A prodigy of speed but not of emotional intelligence. I believe him to be the fastest man to ever ride a bike (even quicker than Freddie which is saying something) I actually feel sorry for him.

Total votes: 74

Depends entirely what you

Depends entirely what you consider the first shot. I'm far from convinced it was anywhere near the 80 sec comment, started back in 2007 especially for the fans. Anyways little doubt caseys relationship with Rossi is unhealthy. Can't think of another rider to hold such a strong grudge for so long til it's got that he keeps repeating the same old rhetoric every time he opens his mouth. I'm firmly in the camp of the guy further up. Casey and reality are seldom bedfellows but I doubt he cares. Pity he can't show everyone the dukes the title challenger he believes it to be. To my own error I also thought this years factory Honda was.

Total votes: 76

He may miss it -

having spent all his grow(ing)n up life travelling the hard way and the easy way and spending lots of time with lots of people. As the saying goes - you don't miss it until it's gone. The outback might seem great for a few weeks/months but ....... he's a young guy and that might just become a little claustrophobic. He can afford to do what he wishes though, so perhaps that removes the blocks.
F1? The days when you could move from the pinnacle of one sport to another are gone I fear - Schumacher for one has shown that. Would Casey excel (is anything else good enough for him?)or would the professionalism be there to make him satisfied?
I've seen a few ex-racers at trackdays (Crafer, Hodgson etc)and they seem perfectly happy to just be messing around on bikes. I saw Whitham on a fairly scruffy R6 once and he was as pumped up as if it was a GP bike/race , so maybe Casey will find happiness in the simpler things.
If not, we may all get a nice surprise (assuming he leaves some bridges intact).
I guess we will know next year, as lots will be watching with interest.

Total votes: 60

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