Decisions On Moto2 Engine And 1 Hour Practice Expected At Jerez

Ever since the Grand Prix Commission announced that the new Moto2 class would be contested by 600cc four strokes, the new class has been surrounded by controversy and argument. And argument continues to dog the class at Motegi, but this time, the argument is much more positive. A decision was expected from the Grand Prix Commission on who would be awarded the contract to supply the spec engine to the class at the Japanese Grand Prix, but the members of the commission face a problem.

According to Motorcycle News' Matthew Birt, the problem is that while it was expected that there would be only a single tender submitted, it seems that more than one manufacturer is interested in the class. As a consequence, the bids will have to be studied in more detail before the contract can be awarded, and that therefore the decision will have to wait until the next race at Jerez in a week's time.

Rumors had previously emerged that Kawasaki would be awarded the contract, but the news that other parties are interested complicates the situation. No news is available on who those other bidders might be, although several companies, including the US-based Cosentino Engineering had expressed a firm interest in the class. But the most likely party to be awarded the contract will be one of the major Japanese manufacturers, if only because they already have the capacity in place to supply the 100+ engines such a class is likely to require.

The other subject due for a delayed decision at Jerez is the question of the length of practice. The decision should have been taken at Motegi, but there was some discussion over whether or not a lap limit would be introduced. The problem with limiting laps is that there would inevitably be arguments about the number of laps to be allowed at each circuit, and how they should be counted, taking into account out laps and in laps or not. According to MCN, the limits will be lifted altogether, with the practice sessions reverting to one hour. It is unlikely that the number of laps each rider does will increase greatly, as the main complaint the teams had was that the 45 minute sessions didn't leave them enough time to test and make the changes they wanted to. So most of the extra 15 minutes the riders will have for each session will likely be spent in the pits, talking to their engineers and crew chiefs.

As Jerez is only a week away, the delay for both these decisions will only be short. But even if the extension of practice times is adopted before Jerez, it won't come into effect until the Grand Prix after, at Le Mans.

Comments

i dont get it? why must there be a single supplier?!

why not just open it up like F1 and allow engine manufacturers to supply engines to whomever they'd like?!

if an engine shop's stuff is shite, then the teams could go to another source (if they thought it was worth the hassle to change the engine mounting, etc.

Total votes: 42

Money

The reason for a single engine supplier is to prevent the factories from getting into another development war and pushing up costs. Racing prototype four-stroke engines is a very, very expensive business, too expensive for a support class. And nearly too expensive for the main MotoGP class.

 

Total votes: 42

But wasn't that what the previous rules allowed...?

I thought the previous rules, limiting development by allowing any team to buy another teams engine would do. That rule would effectively have divorced the teams from the engine suppliers anyway, as a team could chop and change according to the best performing engine at the time.

I suppose I don't really care as long as the grids are full and the racing close and competitive.

Total votes: 50

there's still hope

David,

This whole process is very opaque for outsiders. There was never a request for proposals released and without one it is just about impossible to make a submission. There seem to be some unexpected events happening, such as Kawasaki being unsure about being able to supply the whole grid and other (real) manufacturers being interested in supplying engines, so maybe to please everyone Dorna will instead come up with a well-defined limited cost engine spec that anyone can build. Sort of like F1, here's your displacement and number of cylinders, arrange them as you may but don't use xxx and xxx. The next week holds a lot of hope for us continuing the project with a V4. If not, we'll build around whatever engine is decided.

Chris Cosentino
Cosentino Engineering
www.moto2-usa.com

Total votes: 41

The bit I don't get ..

Now, the bit I don't understand, and correct me if my presumptions are wrong but ...

As I understand it the move from 250's to the 4 stroke Moto2 class was initiated because the manufacturers felt that racing two strokes on Sunday was a bit pointless when they are trying to sell 4 strokes on Monday.

This all makes perfect sense so far, however - if you then stipulate that the four stroke you race on Sunday has to have a spec motor, the same spec motor that all the other manufacturers that you will be competing with in the showroom on Monday has, doesn't that make the sales pitch a little hard to deliver.

"Yeah, this is the aprillia, like the one that won the Assen TT last weekend ! Well, at least the Aprilia chassis did, except it had the motor from that Kawasaki over there, and while I'm at it it had a $50,000 electronics package that you could only dream of getting your hands on. In fact, yeah, your right, it's nothing like the bike that raced on the weekend, and for all I know rides like a complete pig. But .. err. hang on .. come and have a look at this Ten Kate Honda over here."

The other point being, have Dorna given up on the idea of Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki or any of the other big name manufactures with thier own engine manufacturing capability ever getting into Moto 2 ? I Can't imagine Yamaha ever fielding a bike with a Kawasaki (or whatever) motor in it. Who is this division trying to attact. It's obvioulsy not the small manufacturers like Consentino. Is it just meant ot be the Aprillia show ?

Total votes: 31

MotoGP isn't about...

MotoGP isn't about win on sunday buy on monday. The problem is that the Moto2 class bikes can't be available to sell to the public. because the WSBK organisers have the monopoly on racing production bikes that are for sale.

So with a spec. engine. No name (like the factory teams in MotoGP) would be interested in the championship. But sattelite type teams would be able to get a lot of media attention and therefore sponsors :)

I wouldn't expect a Yamaha / Suzuki / Ducati Chassis running with a Honda engine.

Total votes: 34

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