2013 Misano MotoGP Preview: On Yamaha's Seamless Gearbox, Marquez' Misdemeanors And The Veto That Wasn't

Will they or won't they? "They", of course, were Yamaha, and the question was whether Yamaha would start to use their seamless gearbox at Misano, something which riders Valentino Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo had been asking for a long time. That the gearbox would be used at the test on Monday seemed obvious, but several publications - including both MCN and the Spanish website Motocuatro.com - predicted that Yamaha's seamless transmission would be raced at Misano.

They were right. In the press conference on Thursday, Jorge Lorenzo was the first to break the news. 'It will be here for the weekend,' he said, going on to clarify: 'tomorrow.' Rossi was delighted, telling the press conference he was very happy that Yamaha had decided to start using the seamless transmission, as it could help them in their fight against Honda.

It was not by any means a magic bullet, Rossi was at pains to stress, but it would make it easier to ride over the full length of a race. There is no real gain in terms of lap time, but with reduced tire wear and reduced strain on the rider, it did add up to gains in total race time. 'It was a nice feeling not to feel this dropping of power for a few milliseconds,' Lorenzo explained. 'You don't feel it on the seamless - it is like a scooter, an automatic bike.' The biggest gain was in shifting up through the gearbox with the bike banked over, Lorenzo said. With the conventional gearbox, the bike would move, but with the seamless, 'the bike doesn’t move and you save more the tires and are in more in control of the bike.'

Lorenzo had previously put the improvement at 2 or 3 seconds over the course of a race. Would this be enough to beat Honda? American journalist Dennis Noyes had crunched the numbers on the average advantage of each win, taking only races into account in which everyone was (more or less) fit, and conditions were dry. The outcome? The average advantage which a Honda won by was 18.728 seconds, the average advantage of a Yamaha win was 13.485. An improvement of 3 seconds over race distance would shift the balance back away from Honda, evening up the fight. As Jorge Lorenzo demonstrated at Silverstone last time out, if he can stay close in the last few laps, then he can attempt to put up a fight. That has got to be good for Lorenzo's title chances, and good for the spectacle of MotoGP. More equal performance has to be a good thing.

The really good news for the Yamahas is that the seamless gearbox will fit in the existing casings, meaning that it can be used in the engines which are already part of the allocation. That, at least, is what Yamaha boss Lin Jarvis told the press conference, though there is no reason to doubt his word. It would mean that Rossi and Lorenzo could retrofit the gearbox to all their bikes, using it in all the engines which they have already started using. The gearbox had been designed entirely by Yamaha themselves, Jarvis explained. It had been an expensive undertaking, and not been something they had wanted to do, but their hand had been forced, Jarvis said. 'If Honda hadn't invested a huge amount of money to develop the seamless, we wouldn't have invested a large amount of money to go seamless,' Jarvis explained, adding 'that's the nature of competition.'

Ironically, Misano is one track where Yamaha could probably vie with the Hondas without the seamless transmission. Jorge Lorenzo's record in MotoGP is exemplary: he has only ever finished either first or second at the circuit, winning the last two editions. Teammate Valentino Rossi won in 2008 and 2009, was on the podium in 2010, and even in 2012 on the Ducati. The track is literally within walking distance (albeit, a long walk) from his home in nearby Tavullia, a pilgrimage a group of his fans undertake every year. To say that Rossi comes to Misano more motivated than usual would be to put it mildly indeed.

So having the seamless transmission should help Lorenzo in his battle to retain his title, despite the gap to Marc Marquez. Yet however well he normally goes at Misano, it will be tough to beat the Hondas. Dani Pedrosa looked like walking away with the race last year, after dominating in qualifying, but an organizational failure on the grid after a tire warmer melted to his front brake meant he was forced to start from the back of the grid, and was then taken out in a crash with Hector Barbera. If Pedrosa is in the same form he was last year, he could be tough to beat. Pedrosa was unusually absent from Misano on Thursday, however, the Repsol Honda rider's customary press conferences having been canceled, with no reason given.

But what of Marc Marquez? The championship leader and outstanding rookie is back in good shape, and not expecting any problems from the shoulder he dislocated at Silverstone on Sunday morning. He was pleased not to have needed surgery on his shoulder, and was keen to see how he would cope with the shorter, tighter Misano circuit on a MotoGP bike. Marquez' record here is impressive: three wins in the last three years, making him firm favorite to be running at the front here this year too. Lorenzo may be strong at Misano, but he may need all the help from the seamless gearbox he can get to hold off Marc Marquez.

Marquez' crash at Silverstone was subject to discussion. One respected journalist I spoke to believed that the two penalty points Marquez was awarded had been far too lenient. Penalties were supposed to hurt, he said, and on the evidence of previous penalties awarded against Marquez - starting from the back of the grid at Phillip Island in 2011 and Valencia in 2012 - he had not learned enough from those punishments. Ignoring waved yellow flags - which Marquez claimed not to have seen - could have put the lives of volunteer marshals in danger, if the Racesafe organization which works UK motor sports events did not have an ingenious spotter system in place, in which one person stands aside and looks for trouble, warning the marshals clearing the wreckage of any impending danger. The only way to get Marquez looking for yellow flags, he argued, was to ban him for a race. That might get his attention sufficiently to make him think again about some of the risks he was taking. It had worked with Jorge Lorenzo, the Spaniard telling reporters previously that his one-race ban when he was racing 250s had made a big impression on him, and had actually made him change his ways. Maybe this is what Marquez will need in the future.

While much of the attention is on the fight for the championship, and the role which Valentino Rossi might play at his home round, it is easy to forget that this is also the second home race for Ducati. The Italian factory has already tested here, though it was nearly two months ago, and Andrea Dovizioso was not convinced it would make much difference. They would have a base setting for their electronics and gearbox, the Italian said, but would still have a lot of work to do. Ducati had benefited last year, when Valentino Rossi got on the podium, but that had been under special circumstances. Almost all of practice was lost to rain at Misano last year, giving Rossi and Ducati an advantage in set up. With the weather expected to be dry all weekend, a repeat of 2012 is unlikely.

Yet the layout of Misano can work on Ducati's favor. There are few fast corners, where Ducati suffers most. The track is good for bikes with good acceleration, which the Ducatis have, and with the improvements in corner entry, they may be a little bit closer to the front. For them to get on the podium would take a minor miracle, however, none of the Ducati riders believe that is likely.

One notable rider is to make his debut at Misano. Luca Marini, stepbrother of Valentino Rossi, has entered at Misano as a wild card, and will ride an FTR Honda for the Italian federation team. The 16-year-old Marini is currently second in the standings in the Italian Moto3 championship, and is keen to follow in his elder brother's footsteps. There will be a lot of eyes upon him, though he told the Italian sports daily Gazzetta dello Sport that his goal is top 20. That would be an achievement in and of itself.

With six more races of the 2013 season to go, speculation has started on the 2014 season. Enquiries revealed that there has been limited progress made so far, as MotoGP awaits an official calendar from the Formula 1 series, so that they can schedule their races around them. The season is likely to start on 23rd of March in Qatar, with rounds following in Argentina and Austin, before heading back to Europe. Silverstone will stay where it was this year, at the end of August, and Brazil is likely to be added as the final race. With Argentina and Brazil joining, that would make for a 20-race schedule. That is not the intention, I was told, though those involved in organizing the schedule are currently working with three different calendars, one with 18, one with 19 and one with 20 races on the schedule. 18 is still the preferred number, though contracts may prevent that from being achieved. Valencia is the prime candidate to be dropped from the schedule, followed shortly by Laguna Seca. Laguna is 'the most dangerous track on the calendar' I was told, and the very small amount which Laguna pays to organize the MotoGP race - and hence the reason why Moto2 and Moto3 don't go there - was another reason to leave it off the calendar. Contractual obligations mean that Laguna Seca will probably stay on the calendar for next year, but beyond that, it looks certain to disappear.

Finally, the subject of Casey Stoner, and wild card appearances being vetoed. In recent weeks, reports appeared in both the Spanish press and in MCN that Carmelo Ezpeleta had rejected the idea of Casey Stoner doing a wild card at Phillip Island. Some people had taken those reports and turned it into Ezpeleta having turned Honda's application down, and vetoed a come back by Stoner, so I decided to check. After making inquiries, I found out that Honda had never made a formal application to the Grand Prix Commission to have Stoner race as a wild card. I then asked HRC boss Shuhei Nakamoto if he had made an informal request to Ezpeleta to allow Stoner to race. The answer I got both times was simple: No. HRC had never applied for a wild card entry, nor had they ever had the intention of applying. It was understood that Stoner's only interest was in riding the bike, and that he had no desire to subject himself to the media circus involved in racing. He was happy testing, but had not expressed any interest in racing as a wild card.

Had Carmelo Ezpeleta been lying when he talked to reporters? Again, no. Ezpeleta had been asked a hypothetical question: would you grant Stoner a wild card entry for Phillip Island this year? His answer was no, that was not what wild card entries were for, but rather for showcasing local talent or new projects. But there had never been a plan from Honda to enter Stoner as a wild card, so the question itself was meaningless.

Stoner was happy testing, and there was much work still to do. His former crew chief and now senior HRC engineer Cristian Gabarrini had flown out to Motegi for Stoner's two-day test last week, only to be confronted by unrideable conditions. It was a typical tropical downpour, Gabarrini said, 30°, 85% humidity, and torrential rain. It had been a long way to fly to sit and watch the rain.

Rain is not expected at Misano, at least for the next couple of days. The weather looks like being very good, with just the hint of a few drops on Friday. Sunday, however, could be different, with rain expected to fall in the afternoon. When in the afternoon will be crucial. With a bit of luck, it will remain dry. MotoGP fans deserve it, especially if Lorenzo, Marquez, Pedrosa, and maybe even Valentino Rossi can serve up another thriller like Silverstone. There is good reason to expect that to happen.

Will they or won't they? "They", of course, were Yamaha, and the question was whether Yamaha would start to use their seamless gearbox at Misano, something which riders Valentino Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo had been asking for a long time. That the gearbox would be used at the test on Monday seemed obvious, but several publications - including both MCN and the Spanish website Motocuatro.com - predicted that Yamaha's seamless transmission would be raced at Misano.They were right. In the press conference on Thursday, Jorge Lorenzo was the first to break the news. 'It will be here for the weekend,' he said, going on to clarify: 'tomorrow.' Rossi was delighted, telling the press conference he was very happy that Yamaha had decided to start using the seamless transmission, as it could help them in their fight against Honda.It was not by any means a magic bullet, Rossi was at pains to stress, but it would make it easier to ride over the full length of a race. There is no real gain in terms of lap time, but with reduced tire wear and reduced strain on the rider, it did add up to gains in total race time. 'It was a nice feeling not to feel this dropping of power for a few milliseconds,' Lorenzo explained. 'You don't feel it on the seamless - it is like a scooter, an automatic bike.' The biggest gain was in shifting up through the gearbox with the bike banked over, Lorenzo said. With the conventional gearbox, the bike would move, but with the seamless, 'the bike doesn’t move and you save more the tires and are in more in control of the bike.'

Comments

Poor choice of words

I would think Stoner would qualify as "Local Talent" as he is local and quite talented. So that is certainly not a reason to deny a hypothetical wildcard.

Perhaps Ezpeleta meant to say "New" local talent"?

Total votes: 79

The operative word is "showcasing"

As in "showcasing local talent". While Casey is local, there's not much need to showcase a double world champion, is there? Hence, no showcaseying. :-)

Total votes: 72

Well, the R1 is getting a

Well, the R1 is getting a little long in the tooth. Trickle down some of that gearbox tech, dip the fairings in Factory Yamaha livery, slap a 46 on the front, and Yamaha can easily recoup some of that R&D expense.

Total votes: 85

Jose Maroto said on his

Jose Maroto said on his twitter that Barbera is going to have a pneumatic valve engine this weekend. Is this true? Would be very interesting as a hint of what the Aprilia will be next year, specially since they use the Magneti Marelli software.

Total votes: 72

Yellow flags

Slapping a one race ban for not seeing Yellow flags does nothing. Many riders have missed seeing Yellow flags (including myself not that I was a GP rider or even close).

I suggested on another post about having lights inside the helmets but a simple solution would be to put additional flag points in the riders field of vision.

Draw a line roughly from the braking point through the apex of the corner to the edge of the track. It would not even have to be manned. It could be a yellow flashing light that is turned on by the first flag point or the control tower.

Total votes: 82

Dani's Strategy Move...

I'm not a DP26 fan but I hope all is well for Dani and that his absence from the press conference was just a tactic for him to prepare for Sunday's race. Getting the "Eye of the Tiger" letting his collarbone rest/heal a little longer so that when he throws his leg over the RCV he's ready to battle for victory. Jorge and Marquez will not go down easily so Dani needs to start his winning streak by getting pole and the win this weekend. Go Dani!

Total votes: 80

Weather in Brasilia

Usually, we don't get one drop of rain in Brasilia from April to October, so, of course, they want to set the GP here for November, when it is almost certain to rain every day. Brilliant.

Total votes: 72

Marquez and Yellow Flags:

Well, if a one-race suspension is what Marquez may "...need in the future," let's hope no one has to die to realize that lesson!

I haven't seen on-board of his crash to know how many yellow flags were passed and how easy they were for him to see, but it seems to me that should also be a part of the discussion.  Because Vale is frequent crash spot every year, perhaps more real estate ahead of it needs to be flagged whenever there is a problem there.

Total votes: 81

I rather enjoyed the

I rather enjoyed the electronics question at the end of the conference.

MM: fine to see them go or minimized.
JL: I want them to stay
VR: most of them are for performance now. I'd like them to be reduced to safety only (minimized) as they have made the racing "boring!"

Total votes: 81

casey stoner

i think stoner will ride the production based honda model at Phillip island.

Total votes: 83

Bans don't work

I am not convinced that a one race ban on Marc Marquez would succeed in his becoming a "better" rider. From whatever little I know the only thing that differentiates a winner from an also ran is the attitude and the willingness for risk taking by some riders. Motorsport in general and motorcycle racing in particular always have the risk of an impending catastrophe. So to say that it can be made safer for all concerned by slowing down the riders or punishing them for taking risks is not a solution to a problem. What surprises me is that no one really questions technology when it is used for performance enhancement, but a rider makes a mistake and he gets pulled up. Lin Jarvis was right when he said Honda has forced a spending war by getting into seamless gear change technology. Valentino Rossi is right when he says technology should be for safety and not for performance gain.

But look at MotoGP. The 800cc machines were brought in to "slow things down". Electronics intervened and minimised engine braking and maximised corner speeds so lap records came tumbling down. Then for reasons best known to Dorna and the FIM it was 1000cc and all technology now is to ensure that all the power that is laid down by the engine can somehow by utilised. So where is safety. I think Jeremy Burgess was right when he said the movement back to 1000cc was retrograde. It made the perfect base for playing around more with electronics. If like Burgess said 800cc was cut down to 500cc (four stroke) that would have provided the factories (especially Honda) to make four stroke 500cc machines that went as fast as the two stroke 500cc machines. That would have been more meaningful as spending goes and would have had some impact on engine and chassis technology rather than having the present machines which are moving electronic packages. I fear that Eric Schmidt the CEO of Google will one day have his way and we will all be passengers in/on vehicles that drive by themselves. I wonder why we work so hard at making ourselves redundant. I can see MotoGP becoming a championship of remotely controlled machines and then all will be safe.

Total votes: 74

until...

...one of the remote control signals is lost, the bike crashes and fires itself into the stands.

Total votes: 86

not convinced that a one race ban

you can bet all your money on it that it would make a difference. 1 race ban and Jorge wins means 25 points advantage lost and the championship wide open again. 1 ban is enough to lose a championship. Doing it again is a cerntainty not to become WC. Even that WILL open Marc's eyes.
Do you thinck Honda would be happy with that ? If the rules can't open Marc's eyes, Nakamoto will kick him in the ball's so hard he won't ever be able to close them again ...

Total votes: 75

Sir, I would love to agree

Sir, I would love to agree with you but then nothing is so simple in a sport dominated by politics. We know how Dorna went out of the way to get Valentino Rossi the Bridgestone tyres when he started whinging, we also know how big ticket teams control the FIM and Dorna and a one race ban is not going to just end up with Marquez's balls being kicked. Nakamoto will get his balls kicked by the factory if he does not stand up for a rider who is leading the championship, and doing so precisely because he takes the kind of risks he takes. Irrespective of what Nakamoto's beliefs privately are, he will have to stand by his rider, and he probably did and that is why Marquez got away with just two penalty points. Remember he is also a firm Dorna favourite who made sure that he never received any championship threatening punishments for his misdemeanours in Moto2.

Total votes: 75

Track Safety

should not be trivialised. These riders are the very best of the best and reacting to yellow flags by backing off appropriately and not throwing your bike at attending marshals is the least that can be expected from a professional road racer. Perhaps penalties should be harsher but also lessons should be learned from this incident. The use of the spotter and also to look at the adequacy of the yellow flag system employed at tracks should be top of the agenda at the next safety commission meeting.

Total votes: 72

2014 Schedule

Now Dorna has control of both series, can we please arrange it so that WSB and MotoGP don't have a race on the same day in the same continent/timezone. Misano-Istanbul and Silverstone-Nurburgring are not cool. But having a European race on the same day as a US or Far East race is just fine. I want to be able to watch both series in real time and not tape delayed.

And while we're at it, can we please have all rounds go Moto3-Moto2-MotoGP and stop the messing around with the timetables. It's a great formula with a nice build up of tension, so don't mess it about just because there's some race with 4 wheels on at the same time. Or because timezones mean some Europeans have to adjust the timing of their Sunday lunch. We don't care about that.

And that pretty much rules out Laguna as well. If you don't pay for and take the full package, you don't get a race at your circuit. For WSB, by all means replace the 600 and 1000 European Superstock races with national championship races but don't remove WSS. Philip Island can do that, so Laguna should too.

Total votes: 77

Racing/Flags/Lights/Radio

Racing involves pushing the bike to your limits. All these people have limits we would probably be cringing at if we had the controls. (I haven't had the pleasure of riding with Mamola or Ron Haslam, so how that would feel I don't know). Their version of 'backing off' is not that of Joe/Jane Average. MM may have backed off 'a bit' but was also surprised to lose the front (I don't expect he planned it....). At F1 tracks the lights and flags are a long way off so you need to have really good peripheral vision to pick them up in my experience. At Vale they were dead ahead, so perhaps he was just focused/distracted (adjusting his MP3 player or something).

If oil goes down it is easy to envisage a similar situation (SBK last race....) and all the flag waving in the world would still not ensure safety.

I do think that putting yellow 'searchlights' in the fairing/screen area would be easy. Judging from this weeks blog on the TV systems transmitting that data to the bikes as they approach the crash site should not be difficult. Perhaps Dainese could help with some algorithms or other advice on triggering 'yellows' from crashes (the bikes own lean sensors could probably do this).

Once the marshalls are out there the Silverstone solution was right - a watcher. That and everyone on radio (I don't know if that applies at this level) would be a big safety boost. They could also receive other 'advice' about their situation management - like whether you carefully use a body board, or throw/drag the rider out of the zone......

Don't blame MM, he's not alone in this, just use the technology. Riders should be told that if they don't act and their riding is complained about by marshalls their telemetry will be checked (again, real time should be possible) and a ride-through imposed by race control if they consider it appropriate. Marshalls should be told that if they don't react as required their MGP/SBK licencing will be withdrawn.

With all the other technology used by teams nowadays being able to talk to the riders must have safety benefits and could add something to both the racing and entertainment. Delays and expletive deletion may be necessary.....

Total votes: 63

Ezpeleta

More and more I question the vision of Ezpeleta. After degrading the two lighter GP classes into increasingly standardized learner cups, now he wants to prevent attracting too big a crowd. Why on earth would you want to deny Stoner a wildcard? What good would that do?
Personally I don't think Stoner wants to take part anyway, but that's not the point. The fact Ezpeleta would not allow him is ridiculous. That has nothing to do with giving a chance to local talent. I guess it is more about him being angry that Stoner dared to criticize the direction MotoGP is heading in.

Total votes: 91

also, i heard Ducati has switched to Akrapovic exhaust?

any truth to that??

Total votes: 60

Exhausts

Good point. The exhaust system definitely looks different, with a bit of a damper on it as well. I wonder if it is a sponsor thing or an actual performance measure. I hope we get some info on this issue.

Total votes: 71

Brazil

is not a viable location. Whatever they want or do not want from Laguna, Brazil is simply a pawn in the strategy. WC in Brazil is next year,so lots of attention being paid to Brazil and it's culture and excitement.Piggybacking on that while poking Laguna in the side is a sound,if unimaginative strategy....

Total votes: 73

Yellow flags and yellow signage

I don't have any qualms about penalizing riders heavily for safety violations but who was the genius that approved animated yellow Hertz ads all around the track perimeter? Talk about numbing the rider's visual sensitivity to safety flags! That was the first thing that came to mind when watching the race.

With the spec ECU hardware coming in full force next year it would be disappointing if there were no provision for dash mounted caution lights. The trend for large gravel traps or pavement vias pushes flag stations away from the track and with the high corner speeds riders can't really be spending time looking to the outside of the track while paying attention to their braking marker.

Even if Marquez did slow it seems that with oil on the track he was destined to go down regardless.

Chris
http://moto2-usa.blogspot.com/

Total votes: 69

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